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[phacemeltar]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What if they want to be a chastising zealot?

theres a right answer to this, im sure

[phacemeltar]

ok i got it.. took a few minutes to fire up the ol' braincells

anyone should be able to do or be as they choose, but it is illogical for them to expect respect from others that they can not themselves give.
therefore, its fine if one wants to be a chastising zealot, but they should expect to be judged harshly for it.

[DeruIsLove]

You have it the wrong way around. It's fighting fire with fire. I'm the one being told to fuck myself up because it's an experience that 'every human being should have'. I'm resisting peer(stretch) pressure to do so and backing up my statements via example. Pace can only come of war.

[DeruIsLove]

Peace. Double fuck Swype

[phacemeltar]

you are using experiences that are not your own in order to justify your argument

[Lune]

Originally Posted by DeruIsLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's the same line that the born again Christians try to use when they try to shove their Jesus experiences down others' throats.

I'll tell you what I tell them. I like my state of mind where it is fine thank you. Logical and unimpared by bullshit.

Originally Posted by DeruIsLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm all for being what you want to be. Trying to drag others into your lifestyle is another thing altogether. You are no different than a good fearing sheep.

This is weak reasoning. I think you just want to be contrary.

Hallucinogens were something I deeply enjoyed for their own sake, not any associated lifestyle or culture. I'd encourage someone to try them like I would ice cream or blow jobs, because those things are pretty great.

During our time on this Earth, there is nothing quite like temporarily altering your entire state of existence. If you're logical or intellectually curious, then I'm sure you could appreciate the novelty of that kind of experience. There is no need to sperg out about 'lifestyles', that shit is irrelevant. We view our entire reality through a very specific type of lens. Your lens is a little different than mine because you're autistic, but that's okay. Entheogens give you the opportunity to briefly change that lens and perceive your existence in a different way.

Think of it like you would skiing or sex with a 14 year old japanese schoolgirl; it's just an enjoyable, meaningful activity.

Also I wouldn't buy into the commonly held misconceptions about hallucinogens fucking you up. Same kind of shit as the state telling you "Don't inject so many marijuanas or you'll get addicted and die of an OD". Salvia divinorum is completely harmless, as is psilocybin. Some studies have suggested they may rarely contribute to triggering underlying, pre-existing psychoses, but the evidence is weak. Have you ever imbibed alcohol and gotten drunk? The harmful effects of that substance are exponentially more harmful than almost any hallucinogen.

[mtb tripper]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kurgateb, buy a packet of concentrated (25x or higher) salvia divinorum off the internets. Smoke 1 bowl full of it. Sit back and experience something every human being should experience at least once in their lifetime.

Then chill the fuck out and come back and post about your experience meeting sailor moon on the other side.

Originally Posted by phacemeltar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

reality is bullshit, man

Originally Posted by phacemeltar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

thanks for your opinion, dad of the 1950s.

Originally Posted by phacemeltar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i look forward to a world where someone can be what they want to be, and not have to worry about getting chastised by some zealot.

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is weak reasoning. I think you just want to be contrary.

Hallucinogens were something I deeply enjoyed for their own sake, not any associated lifestyle or culture. I'd encourage someone to try them like I would ice cream or blow jobs, because those things are pretty great.

During our time on this Earth, there is nothing quite like temporarily altering your entire state of existence. If you're logical or intellectually curious, then I'm sure you could appreciate the novelty of that kind of experience. There is no need to sperg out about 'lifestyles', that shit is irrelevant. We view our entire reality through a very specific type of lens. Your lens is a little different than mine because you're autistic, but that's okay. Entheogens give you the opportunity to briefly change that lens and perceive your existence in a different way.

Think of it like you would skiing or sex with a 14 year old japanese schoolgirl; it's just an enjoyable, meaningful activity.

Also I wouldn't buy into the commonly held misconceptions about hallucinogens fucking you up. Same kind of shit as the state telling you "Don't inject so many marijuanas or you'll get addicted and die of an OD". Salvia divinorum is completely harmless, as is psilocybin. Some studies have suggested they may rarely contribute to triggering underlying, pre-existing psychoses, but the evidence is weak. Have you ever imbibed alcohol and gotten drunk? The harmful effects of that substance are exponentially more harmful than almost any hallucinogen.

[mtb tripper]

The wisdom of Lune and phacemeltar

[Champion_Standing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u5tQ3tqp04

[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is weak reasoning. I think you just want to be contrary.

Hallucinogens were something I deeply enjoyed for their own sake, not any associated lifestyle or culture. I'd encourage someone to try them like I would ice cream or blow jobs, because those things are pretty great.

During our time on this Earth, there is nothing quite like temporarily altering your entire state of existence. If you're logical or intellectually curious, then I'm sure you could appreciate the novelty of that kind of experience. There is no need to sperg out about 'lifestyles', that shit is irrelevant. We view our entire reality through a very specific type of lens. Your lens is a little different than mine because you're autistic, but that's okay. Entheogens give you the opportunity to briefly change that lens and perceive your existence in a different way.

Think of it like you would skiing or sex with a 14 year old japanese schoolgirl; it's just an enjoyable, meaningful activity.

Also I wouldn't buy into the commonly held misconceptions about hallucinogens fucking you up. Same kind of shit as the state telling you "Don't inject so many marijuanas or you'll get addicted and die of an OD". Salvia divinorum is completely harmless, as is psilocybin. Some studies have suggested they may rarely contribute to triggering underlying, pre-existing psychoses, but the evidence is weak. Have you ever imbibed alcohol and gotten drunk? The harmful effects of that substance are exponentially more harmful than almost any hallucinogen.

Take it as you will, you are one of my favorite posters on these boards. I tend to generalize and for that I apologize if I lumped you in with the likes of Pharma, MTB, or facemelter.

If I wasn't typing this on a phonefI'd elaborate more. That said, I don't disagree with you on any single point. What I disagree with is the glorification of such ideals, which again I'm not pointing my finger at you specifically.

I tried drinking a bit back in my teen years, didn't do anything for me, haven't consumed alcohol in over s decade and I'm certain I'm better for it.

As for the 14 year old comment, it's annoying. My girlfriend is 21 and we have a 25 year old on and off fuck buddy. There is no desire for young girls, there isn't going to be.