Why do people seem to hate luclin so much?

[Lady Julae]

Originally Posted by mr_jon3s [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Alternate abilities made it so alot of classes were useful and gave you a reason to keep playing your main even after you hit 60.

The bazaar ...
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...bane weapons and lucid shards were a pain in the ass. Also the raid targets had a bunch of hp.

Basically this, especially #2.

Also AA's made a lot of classes also cookie-cutter, as raid leaders would require you to have a certain amount of AA's in a specific skill to raid with them - leading to a player's character not being unique at all, but like all the rest of the people on the server.

[Lady Julae]

Originally Posted by Erydan Ouragan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...I often see the "aliens and spaceship" argument, which is downright parroting the WoW argument when TBC came out. There is no spaceship in Luclin, that was world of warcraft. I guess people need their orcs/frogloks/kobolds to be happy...

Except the the giant one parked in North Qeynos being used as Rodcet Nife's Temple. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't get why people think that the bazaar and nexus had a negative impact on social interaction in the game. If anything it let me spend more time on more meaningful social interaction hanging out with my guild and friends instead of spending an entire night or even multiple days watching auction spam looking for an item I want. I dunno about you guys but spending the night grouping or raiding was a lot more fun than spending the night sending dozens of "will you take xx for that" tells.

Fact.

[chipz]

You all must be high as fuck. Your biggest argument is player interaction...are you kidding me? I think you're just anti social crybabies and everyone left your favorite zone so you sat there and pouted. I played from Kunark all the way through LDoN and I never once, at any level, had a problem finding a group or interacting with other players. The world was huge and still took plenty of time to travel and trough my travels, I still met countless of players. Grow up and get rid of your social anxiety over a video game. There was no destroyed social interaction, if anything, it improved greatly. Peace nerds.

[Lady Julae]

Originally Posted by Itap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...Warping to outer space like we're on a NASA mission is quite the stretch for a D&D type MMO...

And yet, Rodcet Nife did it in his space ship. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Lady Julae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And yet, Rodcet Nife did it in his space ship. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or warping around the world like some kind of Star Trek transporter. People just looking for excuses to hate something when the truth is they were growing tired of the game and wanted a reason to move on. Some people needed to blame the game so they feel their actions are justified.

[Lady Julae]

Originally Posted by Telin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i have to say that this option didn't help because It still affected how others were seeing me. I didn't like the fact that other players were looking at different models than me. It broke my immersion.

But how would you ever know someone was using the Luclin models to view your "classic" avatar? And with a toggle switch, a player could easily switch to classic mode and say, "Okay, instead of looking like a human, you look like a bunch of square rocks with a mustache."

[slappytwotoes]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fact.

Alls I know is, when I started P99 and saw the EC tunnel for the first time I got a huge smile on my face. EC Tunnel = Classic

Look, if the game had started with a bazaar zone, no one would be bitchin about it. But the Bazaar replaced something completely player made and emergent with something sterile.

The #1 rule devs learned from the first MMOs is don't destroy emergent gameplay.

[Jimjam]

Sadly most devs learnt to treat emergent gameplay as unintended exploit and nerf it!

[Grizzler]

Originally Posted by Lady Julae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except the the giant one parked in North Qeynos being used as Rodcet Nife's Temple. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is so damn true. Some folks just don't remember that EQ had spaceships AT LAUNCH. In the end, I could care less if luclin is in or not but it's funny how folks forget certain things when those things don't support their arguments.