Raiding Question- TMO

[Nneave]

Ok, so forgive me if this is common knowledge or has already been discussed. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
This would be aimed more at TMO since they are the main force.

My husband and I have only been on this server about 3 weeks and the people I have asked do not seem to know. I have not been ready to raid so I did not concern myself to much with finding this info out until now.


So, my guild Taken on my 1st planar raid with them killed Innoruk in Hate last night. He was an add and we downed him easily with 3 other adds.


Now here is my question, is there a raid rotation? I am sure my leaders know this answer but with T-day cooking, its easier to sit down and type this up. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I spent 6 years in EQ as a co-leader of the #1 guild on Xev, Quiet Solitude http://www.qsguild.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4970, the guild is still there to this day on live and now on Xegony.
Our guild managed and oversaw the Raid Rotation and honor system. Guilds earned their way to kills and into the rotation by proving they could kill X mobs first unassisted and in a reasonable time. For example, if a guild killed Inny then then earned the right to the next slightly harder raid boss, kill that boss and earn the right to next X boss... etc (If that makes sense)

Our rotation had about 3 top guilds and several lesser guilds... When a mob popped, the next guild in rotation was given a a window of X hours after he popped to kill it. Our guild typically would pass on our turn for a lesser Raid boss unless someone needed something from that boss. Granted this was live so many more targets and we only went to places like hate for epic quest items.

We had 1 guild in the 6 years break conformity and started to steal raid mobs. Needless to say the other guilds converged and cock blocked, removing that guild from the rotation and into oblivion. (They were #2 on the server and wanted to take over. They would show up and kill the lesser guilds targets like Ninja's, so my guild intervened)

This is one of the reasons we chose to return to EQ, the player base is phenemonal.
So if there is no current Raid Rotation, I would implore TMO to step up to the plate and become the raiding officials and enforcers. It creates a well balance server and IMHO makes that top guild really shine.


For myself loot is a secondary concern. I think about my Tank, my leaders, my friends, who spend so much time with us and raiding X mob to death for us. I would love to see our MT Kenevil rewarded with his Epic, and others.


If you do already maintain a Raid Rotation, then disregard this post, and thank you for doing what you do <3

[Metallikus]

They beleive in "competition" where they steam roll and monopolize all the content on the server and if anyone gets in their way they seek to destroy that entity by any means possible including using dirty and underhanded tactics such as training, kill stealing, rules abuse, and other griefing. They will then set up moles in your guild, spy on your ventrillo, and post personal information about you in RNF forums. They have no intention of rotating anything. They prefer to instead sell raid loot to the people they deny raid mobs to for personal gain.

[Thana8088]

I don't know what ^^ said because he and his foul attitude are on ignore.

There is no raid rotation on p99. Grats on your Inny kill! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Twilight-Sparkle]

Originally Posted by Thana8088 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know what ^^ said because he and his foul attitude are on ignore.

There is no raid rotation on p99. Grats on your Inny kill! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. It's first come, first serve. Whoever has a raid force present when a mob pops and gets first aggro, by GM law, has priority for the kill. TMO typically has 36 toons always waiting at said spawnpoints though. They've only been suspended from raiding once, when they stole a boss kill from BDA, and BDA told the admins about it; TMO was given a 3-week suspension as a result.

But why do people let TMO bully the server and get away with it? Why hasn't anyone stood up to them and said "No, we want a shot at this content too."?

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Twilight-Sparkle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. It's first come, first serve. Whoever has a raid force present when a mob pops and gets first aggro, by GM law, has priority for the kill. TMO typically has 36 toons always waiting at said spawnpoints though. They've only been suspended from raiding once, when they stole a boss kill from BDA, and BDA told the admins about it; TMO was given a 3-week suspension as a result.

But why do people let TMO bully the server and get away with it? Why hasn't anyone stood up to them and said "No, we want a shot at this content too."?

When you said they have only been suspended once, that is not true. TMO has been raid suspended four times. Pretty much slaps on the wrists because they only got caught for 10% of the stuff were they should have been suspended and more permanent actions should have been deemed. They had a corrupt GM Amelinda sweep petitions under the rug to keep them out of trouble.

[bizzum]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you said they have only been suspended once, that is not true. TMO has been raid suspended four times. Pretty much slaps on the wrists because they only got caught for 10% of the stuff were they should have been suspended and more permanent actions should have been deemed. They had a corrupt GM Amelinda sweep petitions under the rug to keep them out of trouble.

inb4rnf

Silly analysis there, considering we have not been raid suspended since Amelinda left, and I'm 110% sure you still petition everything that doesn't go your way.

[Twilight-Sparkle]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you said they have only been suspended once, that is not true. TMO has been raid suspended four times. Pretty much slaps on the wrists because they only got caught for 10% of the stuff were they should have been suspended and more permanent actions should have been deemed. They had a corrupt GM Amelinda sweep petitions under the rug to keep them out of trouble.

So they even had a GM that was working for them? Wtf, do they pay for this server or something?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you said they have only been suspended once, that is not true. TMO has been raid suspended four times. Pretty much slaps on the wrists because they only got caught for 10% of the stuff were they should have been suspended and more permanent actions should have been deemed. They had a corrupt GM Amelinda sweep petitions under the rug to keep them out of trouble.

Also don't forget GM's always in the competing guilds, Bisch, Cyrius, Xzerion, Hobby.

VD should have been suspended multiple times as should have BDA.
Amelinda was never Pro-TMO

[Sirbanmelotz]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They beleive in "competition" where they steam roll and monopolize all the content on the server and if anyone gets in their way they seek to destroy that entity by any means possible including using dirty and underhanded tactics such as training, kill stealing, rules abuse, and other griefing. They will then set up moles in your guild, spy on your ventrillo, and post personal information about you in RNF forums. They have no intention of rotating anything. They prefer to instead sell raid loot to the people they deny raid mobs to for personal gain.

[arsenalpow]

So what happens in Velious the first time Guild A spends hours clearing growth and Guild B leapfrogs in to kill Tunare?

I don't think you can kite like people do fear currently.