Victim disarmament zones

[Elmarnieh]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know what I value most? Not having to worry about dying of starvation every few years. Actually, access to water is probably top, but food would be #2. Then things like having a home, internet, etc. Having dignity is probably down around #50-100. Shit, if my employer wants to yell at me all day and call me a worthless piece of shit while giving me enough money to cover all of my most immediate expenses and many frivolous ones, I'll take that. I'll certainly take that over working my ass off only to die of starvation because no food is available at any price.

I don't see the USSR as having any respect for anyone's dignity who wasn't part of the inner circle. Have a religion - gulag, say something against party line - gulag, educate your kids - gulag, want a different job than the one assigned to you - gulag, work not hard enough -gulag, work too hard you make others look bad - gulag.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Elmarnieh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see the USSR as having any respect for anyone's dignity who wasn't part of the inner circle. Have a religion - gulag, say something against party line - gulag, educate your kids - gulag, want a different job than the one assigned to you - gulag, work not hard enough -gulag, work too hard you make others look bad - gulag.

If the USSR was the only communist country to run into starvation issues, you might have a point.

[runlvlzero]

Libertarians don't believe in strong authoritarian central governance. Or a particular form of government over the other. We like small limited government.

Project Cybersyn was a project to act as Command and Control for Chile's economy during a heavily socialist time with much unrest. In the end it was only used for breaking strikes. Never became fully functional. A major criticism is it was to automated and lacked enough personnel working with the machines to be of use.

It was a great science experiment. But it was a bad government project. Libertarians would limit government spending on things like this and strictly ensure that they were run under the auspices of a science project. We would leave the private sector to develop these types of systems.

Its also relevant to the big DoD projects we are beginning to implement in our own country. With very little net return for our investment and focus on coercive control.

I urge you to read the wiki article linked. I can't state it any clearer.

Things like this are the domain of Universities and Research. Not governance. And when a government focus's on projects like this to the ultimate goal of stifling "strikes" this is a misuse of government.

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Marx was basically just showing that capitalism is not 100% perfect. Just another of his brilliant insights. Certainly nobody knew men could make mistakes before Marx came along, right?



Technology does put people out of work. However, people have this knack for figuring out new types of work. The destruction of jobs has been one of the great. I'm sure happy that we don't need 90% of the population to be farmers anymore. I don't think Steve Jobs would have made a very good farmer, but he was pretty good with electronics.

He was even more better at manipulating the legal system and dominating Intellectual Property. Not that we should do away with these things. But Steve Jobs crossed the line and I think put more out of work than he employed with his out of control business practices.

[runlvlzero]

Mind you he used the current legal and corporate/government framework in place to build his empire.

M$ way way worse 500x, does not exonerate Jobs though even if he was rebelling from his evil daddy Vader Gates.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mind you he used the current legal and corporate/government framework in place to build his empire.

M$ way way worse 500x, does not exonerate Jobs though even if he was rebelling from his evil daddy Vader Gates.

Both Steve Jobs and Bill Gates have increased the standard of living for humanity as a whole far more than any politician ever has...

[runlvlzero]

Linus Torvalds even more so and not for just Rich Americans.

[r00t]

bill gates and steve jobs known globalist stooges

[runlvlzero]

Richard Stallman a god damned saint!

And Brian Kernighan and Dennis_Ritchie.

[r00t]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Linus Torvalds even more so and not for just Rich Americans.

this. every embedded system from gas pumps, traffic lights, your car, etc etc uses Linux because it is FREE, unlike windows or mac os x