religion

[leewong]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, small nuances in comparison to the systematic oppression of people based on religious creed or ethnicity. Just because I can carry a gun in country A but not country B doesn't mean both countries can't come to a consensus on what constitutes genocide or what is considered evil and oppressive.

Yes, some societies can agree on some points and come to a consensus. I in no way see how that negates the fact that every human on earth possesses a different sense of morality. Societies do what they see as their best interest and so do humans. It isnt surprising to see animals agreeing with each other to form a mutually beneficial pact. It is exactly what you would expect.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, some societies can agree on some points and come to a consensus. I in no way see how that negates the fact that every human on earth possesses a different sense of morality.

I'm not trying to negate that fact, but merely overshadow it with the bigger and more important issues. The smaller issues shouldn't be ignored, but they should be secondary to the larger and more pressing ones.

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Societies do what they see as their best interest and so do humans. It isnt surprising to see animals agreeing with each other to form a mutually beneficial pact. It is exactly what you would expect.

Completely agree.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not trying to negate that fact, but merely overshadow it with the bigger and more important issues. The smaller issues shouldn't be ignored, but they should be secondary to the larger and more pressing ones.

These arent minor differences. Even within a society people can disagree so passionately that they start killing each other...aka the Civil War.

People having a different idea of when killing another is justified is not some minor nuance. It is a question every society and every human wrestles with and has differing opinions on.

[paulgiamatti]

And I feel like we're getting a bit off track here. Just because some countries don't regard minor infractions like genital mutilation as immoral and reprehensible doesn't mean they are an immoral and reprehensible nation. I'm stressing the big issues here for good reason; they are the deciding issues in whether or not we can or should consider a nation as operating under any sense of morality.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

minor infractions like genital mutilation.

Lol really? No wonder the social justice warrior who thinks a cat call equals rape is agreeing with you. You're concept of morality is so warped there's no point in even discussing it.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Your* fuck Swype

[Eliseus]

I've tried to stay out of the past few pages and just find the read interesting, but you guys are so fucking retarded it's mind boggling how much you contradict what you say or imply in other posts.

[paulgiamatti]

If you read my post properly you'd see that I called it immoral and reprehensible, but if you think genital mutilation is just as bad as genocide then that's your problem and not mine.

[paulgiamatti]

And I've never once equated cat calling with rape, that's a complete misrepresentation of anything I've posted and clearly indicates some kind of comprehension problem on your behalf.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you read my post properly you'd see that I called it immoral and reprehensible, but if you think genital mutilation is just as bad as genocide then that's your problem and not mine.

You made the original claim not I. Don't blame reading comprehension on your inability to clarify your statements. Levels of immorality are irrelevant when talking about "universal morality" so I don't see what your point is.

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I've never once equated cat calling with rape, that's a complete misrepresentation of anything I've posted and clearly indicates some kind of comprehension problem on your behalf.

You did not. Iruinedyourday however does and decided to take your side on the argument which if you read my post again, was clearly stated.