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Old 02-02-2016, 02:42 PM
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1. Slow it down to .25x
2. 25 to 30% chance? Lol you're delusional. 50 FA, 2 Rampage on that spawn point.
No, 80% of your guys were AFK. In The A-Team we used to actually measure who was FTE spamming for noble, and it started at 25% and gradually worked its way up to 75%. People weren't facing the right way, weren't close enough, didn't want to die, were just lazy, etc. And that was when we had the timer and only had to spam for 2-3 minutes, not hours.

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A players ability to hit the keys can only go so fast. Unless of course you are using automation. Which takes us in a circle.
Question: if I write a program that somehow manages to generate 10000 keypresses per second, can I get FTE 0.25 seconds before a guild of people spamming keys?
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:49 PM
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Yeah. Still doesn't matter. I am still getting the same amount of inputs of anyone else spamming keys. That is where ping comes into play. A players ability to hit the keys can only go so fast. Unless of course you are using automation. Which takes us in a circle.
Unless you have a physical limitation that prevents your from hitting 4 keys, there really is no way 2 keys is as good as 4.

https://youtu.be/uFtGB6NGKXk

At the start of this video I use 2 keys, then I switch to 4 and you can see a very clear difference in how fast the chat scrolls.
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:53 PM
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No, 80% of your guys were AFK. In The A-Team we used to actually measure who was FTE spamming for noble, and it started at 25% and gradually worked its way up to 75%. People weren't facing the right way, weren't close enough, didn't want to die, were just lazy, etc. And that was when we had the timer and only had to spam for 2-3 minutes, not hours.



Question: if I write a program that somehow manages to generate 10000 keypresses per second, can I get FTE 0.25 seconds before a guild of people spamming keys?
No that is too many inputs. Mouse wheel scrolling would give too many inputs as well. The thing is to be consistent and have great ping. Don't have anything overwriting one action you are trying to do. Sending out all those inputs wouldn't get them all registered by the server.
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:55 PM
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20 seconds is extreme. More like 3-4 seconds.
I mean, people actually ran over to Cekenar while he was running up the steps and started attacking and continued attacking for more than 3-4 seconds. I mean, as I said no one can prove intent, and you can always employ the incompetence defense (as long as you pay BDA royalties) but I'm surprised that no one had a better audio trigger to tell people to stop attacking.

Anyway, I don't take all this stuff so seriously. I've never FTE spammed anything for more than 2 minutes in my time on this server, and most of my 'tracking' DKP was for trainups or COH fte that don't require being glued to the screen, which is something that I'm terribly bad at. I just like analyzing things after the fact, and I'm pretty sure that this fraps indicates that Hoku & Cal have a better technique than you guys do. He's mentioned at least one thing to me that hasn't come up in this thread yet.

Regardless, time for me to stop forumquesting and get some breakfast.

PS Thanks for the fraps toggin, I see I have to retract my statement about chatbox spam!
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:57 PM
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Unless you have a physical limitation that prevents your from hitting 4 keys, there really is no way 2 keys is as good as 4.

https://youtu.be/uFtGB6NGKXk

At the start of this video I use 2 keys, then I switch to 4 and you can see a very clear difference in how fast the chat scrolls.
Then you are setting up your hotkeys differently. As long as the action you are trying to get registered registers the extra keys do not matter. You just can't do anything that overwrites the actions you are trying to get registered via macros/hotkeys.

I do however thank you for showing there is nothing special about Detoxx's spam.
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:58 PM
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Then you are setting up your hotkeys differently. As long as the action you are trying to get registered registers the extra keys do not matter. You just can't do anything that overwrites the actions you are trying to get registered via macros/hotkeys.

I do however thank you for showing there is nothing special about Detoxx's spam.
Yea I don't really think it's the spam that did him in, there are some other interesting parts of the video that lead to the autofire conclusion, but honestly that shits over my head.
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:58 PM
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Sirken can I be a GM to fix the raid scene?
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Old 02-02-2016, 03:08 PM
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Just make chest a GM

He will rule justly
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Old 02-02-2016, 03:09 PM
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Take it easy Rampage / IB, most of us will miss the fierce competition.
The times when everything wasn't determined by petition quest or jav-spam, i'm sure the competition was enjoyable for everyone. Sure CoH FTE racing isn't as fun as clearing trash and racing to pull and / or debating how many adds you can handle with the dragon, but it surely beats jav / mallet spamming the spawn points.

Hey at least Velious so far has not been as heavily based on petition quest as the last year or so in Kunark and VP, although recently it has definitely been a bigger factor.
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Old 02-02-2016, 03:10 PM
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Way to fix the raid scene -

1. Root every Velious raid mob


That's it. That's the fix.
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Yea well you know, 6 years of Velious everything has been killed, only thing left to do is speedrun killing Detoxx guilds.
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