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Old 08-14-2023, 11:23 AM
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Having autism and being an asshole are not mutually exclusive.
I mean that's true. I just think it's irrelevant if he does have it, because clearly that isn't the psychological flaw we should be mocking and condemning him for.
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Old 08-14-2023, 10:39 AM
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Old 08-14-2023, 10:45 AM
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I actually did an ogre sk twink build once and put points into str. It was a glorious feeling capping strength naturally. I wasn’t just oozing with strength either I barely hit the cap but gave me the flexibility to prioritize other stats at that point.

People really need to know capping str without buffs is no cakewalk until you really start getting seriously geared. My troll has some casual raid gear and still only about 220 strength unbuffed.

It really is the greatest starting stat.
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Old 08-14-2023, 10:51 AM
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I actually did an ogre sk twink build once and put points into str. It was a glorious feeling capping strength naturally. I wasn’t just oozing with strength either I barely hit the cap but gave me the flexibility to prioritize other stats at that point.

People really need to know capping str without buffs is no cakewalk until you really start getting seriously geared. My troll has some casual raid gear and still only about 220 strength unbuffed.

It really is the greatest starting stat.
You’ll be sorry once a 60 shaman starts following you around spamming ME/Focus.

These days i dump str on almost all my toons. Even int casters. Gotta carry max cracked staffs!
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Old 08-14-2023, 11:16 AM
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You’ll be sorry once a 60 shaman starts following you around spamming ME/Focus.

These days i dump str on almost all my toons. Even int casters. Gotta carry max cracked staffs!
Oh, I quit that SK in the 30s. It's a fun class to try diff builds with, because they are so bad in the raid scene I don't feel bad abandoning them early on.

I like the STR idea though on casters too, my mage is constantly encumbered, I wish I did 25 str/5 int instead of the alternative.
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Old 08-14-2023, 11:00 AM
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People really need to know capping str without buffs is no cakewalk until you really start getting seriously geared. My troll has some casual raid gear and still only about 220 strength unbuffed.

It really is the greatest starting stat.
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Please stop trying to tell people STR is hard to cap. It doesn't help other people. You can get +235 STR with buffs. 100+ STR with multiple combinations of buffs. It is also easy to get a lot of STR with EC gear. Having 160 STR vs. 180 STR while leveling is really not a big deal. If it was, everybody would suggest picking only high STR races for melee classes.

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Sta if you’re just grouping/raiding.
Int if ya wanna min max.
dex for casual greenmist procs.

Int will serve you the best overall imo.
You are simply going along with the trolls. You have done this in the past. I notice you didn't mention STR at all in your first post.
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Old 08-14-2023, 11:19 AM
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My personal opinion here is that I would put it into STA, unless you're going Dark Elf and Iksar perhaps.

Putting it into INT is a waste, though. An SK, through the overwhelming majority of its playtime, does not live or die because they didn't strive to max out INT and mana. Makes a bit more sense for a Paladin to put points into WIS by comparison, since they make more extensive use of their mana by healing.

I'd honestly think putting the points into DEX would be less of a waste.
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Old 08-14-2023, 11:33 AM
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My personal opinion here is that I would put it into STA, unless you're going Dark Elf and Iksar perhaps.

Putting it into INT is a waste, though. An SK, through the overwhelming majority of its playtime, does not live or die because they didn't strive to max out INT and mana. Makes a bit more sense for a Paladin to put points into WIS by comparison, since they make more extensive use of their mana by healing.

I'd honestly think putting the points into DEX would be less of a waste.
You can raise dex by over 370 with buffs so this is a waste. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After some consideration I have decided the best stat is int so you can shame shamans for not having their PE hammer when you try to grasp those last few points of sta you are missing while raid buffed.
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Old 08-14-2023, 11:52 AM
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Install gamparse and look at hit distribution patterns. Look up old steel warrior threads (if they still exist) by yoda iirc.
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Old 08-14-2023, 11:53 AM
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Install gamparse and look at hit distribution patterns. Look up old steel warrior threads (if they still exist) by yoda iirc.
No. You need to show us why you keep insisting you are right, when you have no evidence to back it up. You cannot ask other people to provide evidence for your own claims.

If you think you know the formulas so well, please provide them and plug in the data from my previous post: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...&postcount=300
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