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Yes, it promotes "competition" 75 29.18%
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:27 PM
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With or without a variance, the guild with the most resources will win the race. This is because each mob is popping by itself. You can either have a massive amount of tracking or socking.

The most elegant solution is a FTE shout and simulated patches. Other guilds flourish when there's a server reset as even the #1 guild's resources can only reach so far.

Keep the variance, but allow a bi-weekly reset. Some can be announced, others can be random. Large amounts of simultaneously available targets dilute the power of any one guild.
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:13 AM
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remove variance, add rotation; problem solved
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Old 06-20-2012, 05:53 AM
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:49 AM
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ok bro, i quit eq before velious was even released back in the day. and i can tell you with 100% conviction that "poop socking" "rules lawyering" and "FTE shit fests" did not exist back then. neither did variance. so at least from my point of view rotations are fully classic
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Old 06-20-2012, 12:22 PM
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ok bro, i quit eq before velious was even released back in the day. and i can tell you with 100% conviction that "poop socking" "rules lawyering" and "FTE shit fests" did not exist back then. neither did variance. so at least from my point of view rotations are fully classic
"forced rotations" also did not exists, they were agree'd upon by leaders of top guilds on the server.
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:29 PM
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ok bro, i quit eq before velious was even released back in the day. and i can tell you with 100% conviction that "poop socking" "rules lawyering" and "FTE shit fests" did not exist back then. neither did variance. so at least from my point of view rotations are fully classic

I played on Tallon Zek, no rotations on anything until mabye end of Luclin content, and even then it was on maybe two mobs and just between two guilds who had a non agression pact. The top guild did not participate.There was also absolutely no poop socking, didn't even know the term till I played here. So neither of those are classic from my perspective.

I'm actually surprised that you saw rotations on mobs before Velious.
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:18 AM
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Things like "hey all our warriors are actually epiced, we will trade you our masetro for your VS" could even happen. My point is, maybe taking out the speculation of making sure you get this mob or that mob, might also releave some of the tight butt hole stress.
While I agree with many of your points, I want to point out this particularly. This can happen with or without variance. A mobs varied spawn timer plays little to no part in whether this particular event occurs. If a raid guild decides it wants every mob for itself, regardless of need, they will attempt to make it so and, varied spawn or not, the above situation won't happen.
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Old 06-20-2012, 05:32 AM
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While I agree with many of your points, I want to point out this particularly. This can happen with or without variance. A mobs varied spawn timer plays little to no part in whether this particular event occurs. If a raid guild decides it wants every mob for itself, regardless of need, they will attempt to make it so and, varied spawn or not, the above situation won't happen.
I guess my point is that the lack of variance takes out a lot of the speculation, even the certainty of the a mob spawning isn't as reassuring as knowing when it's spawning, meaning knowing when you'll get yours i guess. Anyone who lived through 2008 should realize the danger of speculation.
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:19 AM
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p99 isn't live. it has and will continue to develop its own unique circumstances and will need unique fixes that were not originally addressed in the live patching timeline or policy enforced by the live admins.
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Old 06-20-2012, 06:02 AM
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rotation served daily at your local homeless shelters. enjoy
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