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Old 02-10-2022, 08:40 PM
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For the few people saying "Classic Everquest wasn't competitive", you're just not accepting the reality.

The entire game, in the "Classic" era and all the way through PoP, was designed to be competitive.

Every single aspect of this game is competitive, by its very nature, then you add a time locked server and that design will naturally magnify. This is the natural evolution of what "Classic" would have been had Smedley and company decided to take their time and not kill the game with half-assed and quick release expansion drops with little to no meaningful content. That was the number one factor and final nail in the coffin which every player on live could see, clear as day.

I can't believe there are people that have played here for years and don't recognize that this game, in era, has always been and will always be competitive. If you don't like competition, then you're playing the wrong game and/or server.

Stop your bitching and moaning at the owners of this server and those that work to facilitate and enjoy this goal immensely in an attempt to go against the very essence of what a successful Everquest was, and what Project 1999 is.

Sorry to detour your cheating dialogue, please continue.

This post reeks of P99 brain rot. If you're told a lie often enough you'll believe anything I guess. Everquest raiding wasn't designed to be competitive. You're literally an insane person if you actually believe that. Not having the technology to implement instances in 1999 is NOT the same thing as saying "We intend for mentally ill neckbeards to stare at their monitor for 16 hours waiting for a pixel giant to spawn so they can run their pre-practiced race path to FTE it before anyone else every week"

You're aware many live servers had GM enforced raid rotations in classic right? They implemented instances literally as quickly as was technologically feasible for them to do so because it was pretty much immediately obvious how toxic and bad open world "competition" for raid targets was.

That said I'm not condoning rotations on P99. They wouldn't be a great solution here for reasons already well known and stated. The aforementioned mentally ill neckbeards would make splinter alt guilds to clog up rotation and it would be a mess. Only way it would work is if you set a hard limit on number of guilds that could be in rotation and force everyone to join one of x number of guilds that have a rotation slot if they want to raid. As awful as that sounds it'd honestly be better than the bullshit that goes on currently but that's besides the point.


Lol @ actually thinking EQ devs built the game for competitive PvE raiding. I'm still chucklin over here. Thanks for that.
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Old 02-11-2022, 12:12 AM
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im upset
imagine having a forum signature where you complain about what's "Classic" while most of those things have been this way for 13 years of Project 1999, an emulated server for a game that is old enough to rent a car.

And then having the audacity to pose a question if the other people on this nerd forum has touched grass. Mother fucker, have YOU touched grass?
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Old 02-11-2022, 02:32 PM
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imagine having a forum signature where you complain about what's "Classic" while most of those things have been this way for 13 years of Project 1999, an emulated server for a game that is old enough to rent a car.

And then having the audacity to pose a question if the other people on this nerd forum has touched grass. Mother fucker, have YOU touched grass?
"Things have been toxic and bad for a VERY LONG TIME so we shouldn't do anything to try to fix it" - You

I touched grass today (technically snow unfortunately). I check this forum maybe 10 minutes out of my day. I was entirely absent from this forum for years prior to a few weeks ago. You've probably spent more time engaging in the mental illness olympics of this servers endgame this week than I've spent time thinking about this server in the past year. Not that any of this is relevant really but you brought it up so there ya go.


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no one is forcing you to play on p99
I don't play p99 currently. Largely because of exactly the kind of shit that spawned this monstrosity of a thread. That and having my main account perma banned for questionable reasons but that's besides the point. I have another account I could play but the amount of toxicity and stupidity that continues to dominate the endgame here isn't something I can justify dealing with at this point in my life. I wish it was different so I could jump back in. For some reason there's a group of folks that continue to defend this dumpster fire of a endgame system and the folks in charge either don't seem to care or for some reason enjoy things the way that they are. Historically they've hidden behind "Shits classic yo" excuses when they make unpopular decisions or changes. In this case they purposefully make blatantly not classic changes to allow a disgustingly toxic endgame to continue. Very puzzling to me and it should be to everyone.
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Old 02-11-2022, 02:46 PM
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I don't play p99 currently. Largely because of exactly the kind of shit that spawned this monstrosity of a thread. That and having my main account perma banned for questionable reasons but that's besides the point. I have another account I could play but the amount of toxicity and stupidity that continues to dominate the endgame here isn't something I can justify dealing with at this point in my life. I wish it was different so I could jump back in. For some reason there's a group of folks that continue to defend this dumpster fire of a endgame system and the folks in charge either don't seem to care or for some reason enjoy things the way that they are. Historically they've hidden behind "Shits classic yo" excuses when they make unpopular decisions or changes. In this case they purposefully make blatantly not classic changes to allow a disgustingly toxic endgame to continue. Very puzzling to me and it should be to everyone.
yup nice going

you just discredited yourself

also saying that classic eq is not competitive is halarious. everything literally

spawns in real time, forcing players to fight over scarce amount of mobs

and the only way to get perma banned on p99 is if you are toxic as shit, you box, or

RMT

so im gonna take everything you say for a grain of salt
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Old 02-11-2022, 02:59 PM
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"Things have been toxic and bad for a VERY LONG TIME so we shouldn't do anything to try to fix it" - You

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That and having my main account perma banned for questionable reasons but that's besides the point.
rofl you cant make this shit up
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Old 02-11-2022, 06:08 PM
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I touched grass today (technically snow unfortunately). I check this forum maybe 10 minutes out of my day.
With the rate at which you're F5ing this thread, I'm gonna have to call bullshit on this one.

You seem super obsessed for someone who doesn't even play here any more.

You should probably seek help.
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Old 02-11-2022, 01:16 AM
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This post reeks of P99 brain rot. If you're told a lie often enough you'll believe anything I guess. Everquest raiding wasn't designed to be competitive. You're literally an insane person if you actually believe that. Not having the technology to implement instances in 1999 is NOT the same thing as saying "We intend for mentally ill neckbeards to stare at their monitor for 16 hours waiting for a pixel giant to spawn so they can run their pre-practiced race path to FTE it before anyone else every week"

You're aware many live servers had GM enforced raid rotations in classic right? They implemented instances literally as quickly as was technologically feasible for them to do so because it was pretty much immediately obvious how toxic and bad open world "competition" for raid targets was.

That said I'm not condoning rotations on P99. They wouldn't be a great solution here for reasons already well known and stated. The aforementioned mentally ill neckbeards would make splinter alt guilds to clog up rotation and it would be a mess. Only way it would work is if you set a hard limit on number of guilds that could be in rotation and force everyone to join one of x number of guilds that have a rotation slot if they want to raid. As awful as that sounds it'd honestly be better than the bullshit that goes on currently but that's besides the point.


Lol @ actually thinking EQ devs built the game for competitive PvE raiding. I'm still chucklin over here. Thanks for that.
no one is forcing you to play on p99
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Old 02-11-2022, 10:38 AM
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Everquest raiding wasn't designed to be competitive. You're literally an insane person if you actually believe that
I'm not sure any of us are really in a position to say that. We can look at the original white papers and draw our own conclusions, but irrespective of "what it was designed to be," you can look at all of the mechanics and come to only one conclusion: irrespective of intent, people were always going to compete for the scarce resources in this game from day one.
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Old 02-10-2022, 01:41 AM
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bro i cried when someone took my glowing torch on rallos zek shit was highly competitive.
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Old 02-10-2022, 03:14 AM
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For the people talking about how EQ isn't treated as an E-sport, let me point out two huge flaws in that line of thinking.

1. People no lifed EverQuest on live worse than people do on p99. They didn't call it evercrack for nothing.

2. People have been playing p99 as if it is an e-sport.... for over a fucking decade on this server now. They raid scene has been pretty fiercely competitive, long enough to almost been in JR High School.
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