End of the rotation?

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It boggles my mind, that some BDA members can be so blind to how BDA is now acting in this exact scenario. It basically goes against everything BDA has ever said about how they wish to approach raid scene on this server.

BDA wants to get rid of poopsocking, variance, and the culture of training at VP/planes that currently goes on in Class C and formerly went on before for every raid mob.

That has no bearing on the current Class R discussions.

Also, BDA (mostly Anichek) has been the one mediating and trying to keep the rotation together for the last year.

[Amra]

Originally Posted by Clasick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA trying to force their play style on other class R guilds.
Such fucking hypocrites

We aren't forcing shit, but if your guild needs help on every 3rd mob you killed why the fuck are you at the table?

If we don't do something now that rotation is going to get even more ridiculous with all these new smaller guilds wanting a piece of the pie. We have enough raiding guilds already...just join of the existing ones ffs.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is incredibly hilarious to watch BDA members trot out literally the exact same arguments class C members used against them a year ago to justify their desire to break the rotation. I remember BDA members crying about not wanting to have to recruit zerg members to compete, and how they all have lives and jobs and can't be expected to kill stuff at 3am like some no-life neckbeards in TMO. And now they have demanded that these other smaller class R guilds, resort to zerg recruiting in order to 'earn their pixels'. I might have to start digging up quotes from BDA members a year ago to show how some of you are literally using the exact arguments TMO did.

It boggles my mind, that some BDA members can be so blind to how BDA is now acting in this exact scenario. It basically goes against everything BDA has ever said about how they wish to approach raid scene on this server.

i believe we were always concerned about guilds who can't kill the mob somehow being on the rotation for the mob? That hasn't changed.

You think this Class C/Class R system is gonna stick around once Velious drops? Good luck with that. So Class R has two options... foster SOME semblance of urgency to kill the mobs while the rotation still allows us to do so uncontested, to better prep us all for the Velious shitshow, or we can all be completely non-competitive against Class C guilds while they roll all over us when everything goes back to FFA.

Which do you think is better for the entirety of the server? TMO/IB dominating the raid scene once again because we all got fat and lazy with "welfare loot"? Or some of us at least standing a chance at the race for targets?

At least BDA, Taken, and Divinity have the fucking foresight to see the writing on the wall.

[Argh]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is incredibly hilarious to watch BDA members trot out literally the exact same arguments class C members used against them a year ago to justify their desire to break the rotation. I remember BDA members crying about not wanting to have to recruit zerg members to compete, and how they all have lives and jobs and can't be expected to kill stuff at 3am like some no-life neckbeards in TMO. And now they have demanded that these other smaller class R guilds, resort to zerg recruiting in order to 'earn their pixels'. I might have to start digging up quotes from BDA members a year ago to show how some of you are literally using the exact arguments TMO did.

It boggles my mind, that some BDA members can be so blind to how BDA is now acting in this exact scenario. It basically goes against everything BDA has ever said about how they wish to approach raid scene on this server.

These are just from one shitty thread about how the mobs per month in a rotation would really be 2.69 mobs per month per guild.

Originally Posted by Erati

2.69 > 0

/thread

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...=133512&page=2

Originally Posted by Falkun

The tier2 guilds are committed to rotating whatever mobs they are allotted. None of them want the "competition" this server breeds. If mobs get imperceptibly thin, tier2 can renegotiate amongst themselves. On the upside, having a solid foundation in place when Velious is released means when raid content increases by 2-5 times, then the transition will be easier and we won't all be raid suspended as Velious is released while we negotiate new terms.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...=133512&page=2

Originally Posted by Catherin

A guild that does not want to continue to play under the restrictions of Tier2 can always be requested to be moved up to Tier 1... Im sure tier 1 would welcome the "competition"

Everyone that is currently labled as tier 2 are probably happy they are going to be able to see any raid targets at all now, compared to before where they did not. The upper end Tier 2 guilds are more than happy to concede the extra targets they "may" have gotten in a less restrictive agreement. This is because under the tier 2 playstyle, even though we may see a few less targets in the higher end of tier 2, we will finally see some targets that we never got to see in the previous abusive environment. (AKA Venril Sathir, Trakanon, and Cazic Thule)

I see tier 1 and tier 2 as different playstyles, not different ranks.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...=133512&page=2

Everyone has certainly gotten more cynical in their view of seeing raid mobs.

[Oleris]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think Asgard is complete trash and full of retards.

You hurt my feelings :*(

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[Troubled]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if this is such a common thing why are we Hitler for doing it? Why all the knotted panties and BDA hate over it?

Chest.

[Troubled]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA gettin merked in these threads... yet to see any kind of decent post from them either.

Looking in RNF for a decent post.

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[chief]

wait why on this classic eq server is there a tiered raiding system, shits not classic

[Pint]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think Asgard is complete trash and full of retards.

three cheers for this guy

[Pint]

Originally Posted by ArumTP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Butchh came from asgard, before that he was nothing. He felt like helping some old buddies. Why do people insist on some type of Asgard/TMO conspiracy

if they stick by the assumption that we are all just tmo alts then they can treat us like shit on a daily basis and not feel bad about it. pretty basic p99 101 here.