Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Oh Cyxthryth is back. Another account exclusively made to troll. 400/411 of their posts are in this thread alone for reference.

They just copy paste the same nonsense over and over again. You can look at the post history and see the same post over and over. It's all easy to disprove too if you cared to look through the thread. I am not sure why he bothers spamming this thread.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh Cyxthryth is back. Another account exclusively made to troll.

They just copy paste the same nonsense over and over again. You can look at the post history and see the same post over and over. It's all easy to disprove too if you cared to look through the thread. I am not sure why he bothers spamming this thread.

I never "left" and unlike yourself I never made a post in this thread proclaiming "this will be my last post" (hi DSM lol). My account was not exclusively made to troll.

Anyway (since I'm clearly not a troll and clearly do not exclusively copy/paste, and on the off chance you actually reply as you've - VERY selectively - done with a VERY select few of my previous replies)...

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd still swap the cleric for a Shaman in this kind of group.

The past 464 pages could possibly suggest/be interpreted to indicate (particularly by someone who merely skims instead of reading all of the past 464 pages) that you'd likely say something similar regardless of what other classes and content are being discussed. Is there any particular group size & content combination which you WOULDN'T include Shaman among the "best" classes and therefore choose Shaman as one of the classes for that group/content?

[Gloomlord]

Yep, this account is made to troll alright!

Conveniently ignore I have a 59 Bard, 57 Paladin and a 54 Necromancer. This account was made exclusively to troll!

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[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep, this account is made to troll alright!

Conveniently ignore I have a 59 Bard, 57 Paladin and a 54 Necromancer. This account was made exclusively to troll!

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Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're the only one I'm "harassing", you manipulative sociopath.

You admitted it, and the evidence is over 80% of your entire post history is just insulting and trolling. Anybody can check your post history, they don't need to take my word for it.

What characters you play in game is honestly irrelevant to your actions here.

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My account was not exclusively made to troll.

400/412 nonsensical posts in this thread exclusively says otherwise. You cannot hide your post history.

Unfortunately for you, your trolling was just too obvious. It is why most posters ignored the vast majority of your posts, even other trolls. I am just replying to you in this instance so people get context for your account. You will probably reply in this thread again, but there isn't much point in engaging with you further. You will continue to post the same nonsense over and over. It is the pattern which everybody can see if they check the history of this thread.

Originally Posted by cyxthryth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is there any particular group size & content combination which you WOULDN'T include Shaman among the "best" classes and therefore choose Shaman as one of the classes for that group/content?

Sure. Any fight where the mob cannot be slowed is generally not a very good fight for a Shaman. Xenovorash comes to mind just off the top of my head.

Sometimes groups will still take a Shaman in these cases because Torpor is a cheap and good spot heal, and spot heals are good to mitigate potential gaps in a CH chain. The Shaman can Cannibalize too, so they can cast more spot heals while Torpor is ticking.

For single group content without a Warrior (which is what this thread is about), very few mobs that people want to kill are immune to slow, or deal enough damage to outpace Torpor. That is why Shaman is a top pick in this thread. The content fits well with a Shaman's strengths.

[cyxthryth]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

400/412 nonsensical posts in this thread exclusively says otherwise. You cannot hide your post history.

Unfortunately for you, your trolling was just too obvious. It is why most posters ignored the vast majority of your posts, even other trolls. I am just replying to you in this instance so people get context for your account.

Would you be willing to provide the definitions of "nonsensical" and "trolling" that you are ascribing to my posts in this thread, for the sake of civil discussion? To my knowledge, I have not indicated that I am interested in hiding my post history, which I am fully aware is not able to be hidden - so I am not sure why your post would seem to indicate that you believe I would be interested in doing and/or that I am attempting to do anything of the sort (strawman much?). Regarding whether others have "ignored" the vast majority of my posts: others already replied to inform you (specifically) that they were not ignoring me, my posts were simply largely directed solely at yourself. I have interacted with others, and I/my posts have been the subject of other posters' replies. This is all clear and visible in the clearly visible post history.

The objective fact of the matter is: I could simply claim that your thousands of posts in this thread are "nonsensical" and (obvious) "trolling" and we would simply be at an impasse. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Gloomlord]

You're just proving my point, you deluded fool.

[Troxx]

Good question - they aren't exactly a melee class if you play them appropriately (excluding epic for mod and proc).

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good question - they aren't exactly a melee class if you play them appropriately (excluding epic for mod and proc).

If you are referring to Bards, I agree they are in a grey area in terms of their toolkit.

It would probably be up to OP to decide what they meant by "caster". I think everybody here assumes OP meant cloth caster (Wizard, Enchanter, Magician, Necromancer). Based on OP's few replies, that seems to be the case. Priest is obviously Shaman/Druid/Cleric.

[eqravenprince]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are referring to Bards, I agree they are in a grey area in terms of their toolkit.

It would probably be up to OP to decide what they meant by "caster". I think everybody here assumes OP meant cloth caster (Wizard, Enchanter, Magician, Necromancer). Based on OP's few replies, that seems to be the case. Priest is obviously Shaman/Druid/Cleric.

Yes, caster (Wizard, Enchanter, Magician, Necromancer).

[Troxx]

Bards, played correctly, are super powerful but for this particular group I might argue are less efficient than necro/mage ... but more efficient/effective than shaman. From a dynamic standpoint, they meet the needs of 3 otherwise capable and (as a group) independent set of toons way more than a shaman could. They aren't a "caster class" though so I excluded the class from my thought process. They don't add much to kill power but they do add a layer of "other" to the group and in extra ways beyond what a shaman can.

Played poorly ... a bard is a waste in most all cases. Some 55 and above don't even appreciate the value of keeping cantana (string mod or not) up as much as possible. Bad bard are bad news and fuck it .... no.

Disclaimer: Troxx (my namesake) was my first to level 60 and is a bard so I have bias. More often than not when you have a person playing bard they don't know ass from elbow. They can (and should be) the WD-40 of eq. Not powerful on their own but they grease up the gears and make everything O SO MUCH easier when played perfectly.

Disclaimer 2: My second to 60 was my shaman.

In this kind of group they offer:
-mana pulse once level appropriate
-up to 3x mana pulse + group mana regen once level appropriate
-potential hp regen/tick to all in group > 50/tick to all (not pets) in group once level appropriate (1/6 torpor but to everyone) along with mana regen
-pulling potential or primary pulling (lull included)
-CC assistance
-Instant snare/slow on incoming
-dot chants (3sec cast each so loading them all up is possible)

But if the group can handle all the CC and doesn't need or wouldn't benefit from the extra's the bard brings - I don't think they would fit in as well as others. If the bard really knows what they are doing and the others are relative mouth-breathers, however, the bard may add a whole heck of a lot.