OFFICIAL PROPOSAL from FE/TMO

[sanforce]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are a riot. Im all for compromise don't know how many times I can say it. Sorry you are so angry that I don't think this is the right one. Keep calling people who don't agree with you a socialist though you are just derailing your own cause. Good luck with this.

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone is killing 3 things a week because that's what happens when you get asked to share mobs with 6 other guilds.

Problem, math? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Socialism [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[oddibemcd]

I actually didn't mind this proposal, but the devil was the details.

We won't touch targets...unless we need them.
You're welcome to try VP, but you get penalized.

This could get settled easy.

First ten days of the month are for guilds that didn't kill a VP dragon in the past month. A guild can't kill any mob in those 10 days they killed the previous month.

Rest of the month is a FFA.

[Argh]

Rotations are not fun.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by MaksimMazor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Read if you want to kill 3 things a week

Better then 0 isnt it? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rotations are not fun.

Neither is the current raiding scene on p99(well current as in before last week)

[Hailto]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They want free uncontested mobs because the idea of a "contested mob" on P99 is totally ridiculous and unreasonable for anyone not willing to receive text messages about pixel dragons at 4AM on a Tuesday. That is NOT classic and not what anyone on a classic EverQuest server signed up for. So they'll take uncontested as it's the only way they can even see the classic content they're here for.

The idea of competition in the endgame on this server is a farce. Logging in fully buffed at the kill zone and killing trivial content within 7 minutes of its spawn time is not competition. It's a race, sure, but not one that requires any ability whatsoever beyond hitting "enter world" and pounding a macro.

Classic rewarded competence, organization, and mobilization. P99 rewards time investment and size. That's the problem. Everything else is window dressing.

So you think disallowing guilds to camp out alts at targets is going to change anything? The more organized guilds will out mobilize from the bind points because they will still be the ones getting the batphones. If you increase spawn frequency, the top guilds are still going to get the lions share anyway. People are bitching about this because they want free mobs, not contested ones.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was not quite aware I posted any numbers, sir. I would like you to please direct me to the exact location as to where my analysis is incorrect and I invite you to correct it with the exact factual numbers.

Check your PM's Stealin. Wasn't trying to argue with you.

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are a riot. Im all for compromise don't know how many times I can say it. Sorry you are so angry that I don't think this is the right one. Keep calling people who don't agree with you a socialist though you are just derailing your own cause. Good luck with this.

Im not angry about you not agreeing with this proposal, Im angry at your threats to stall negotiations out until you're personally satisfied despite you claiming that youre all about compromise.

[Tayy]

Let's be honest, I can't see TMO or FE/IB giving out loot to another guild strictly to screw with things, they are much too proud to do that and if people begin guild jumping it will be pretty obvious to see whats up.

A point system/bag limit is the only fair way to go. I understand it's difficult to go from 90% of the mobs to 20% especially when you've increased your guild size to the point its at and have X number of alts that "need" to be geared to your liking but it's the only fair way. It's not going to be fair if you look at it from where your sitting, it's fair to everyone as a whole. Of course it's easy to say we have more people needing geared, were more hardcore then the next guild so were more entitled to shit but that's not in the best interests of fairness.

There will be times where other guilds max out their point total with lesser mobs and miss out on the big targets. It will effect everyone positively and negatively given certain circumstances.

If the guild leaders sat down over a large pizza to discuss problems and the devs bought the pizza and my guild leader ate 5 of the 10 slices and you and the other leaders are still fucking hungry when it's all gone, you better believe your gonna be pissed off when his excuse is "well I eat faster, hence worked harder....deal with it".... annnnnddd that's my analogy for the day.

[-Catherin-]

Originally Posted by Pheer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im not angry about you not agreeing with this proposal, Im angry at your threats to stall negotiations out until you're personally satisfied despite you claiming that youre all about compromise.

This statement is completely fabricated. not agreeing to a flawed compromise is not stalling. its not agreeing to a flawed compromise.

and my personal satisfaction has nothing to do with it. Since my personal satisfaction isn't what is going to be the decision on what we all end up agreeing upon. I have no power to make any real change to any of this other than state my own opinion. You seem pretty threatened by that though