the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[unsunghero]

I watch some channels like CharlieBo who walks through the worst ghettos and interviews gang members on pretty milquetoast questions like “what’s it like living here”, “what would you change about this”

and many times the teens and young adults mention they didn’t have a dad and other times the describe how OG gang members did stuff with them that you would normally imagine dad’s doing, like saying this is how you fight, this how you shave, this is how you pick up girls. OG gang members not only fill a huge void in their life, but they even groom them by buying them things. Here’s some drugs, check this gun out, you like this? It’s yours. Except now you gotta kill a guy

Single overwhelmed parent -> unsocialized (I don’t mean animals, just a bit of behavior problems) -> schools giving up on the kids due to behavior problems -> no education -> no jobs (not their fault) -> limited family = gang life

[Elizondo]

Butthurt Bug Eaters just cringe posting

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Basanos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think or spin whatever you want, but I'm sure in person you're a lot more careful with your words than you are on these forums.

The only reason I might choose my words more carefully is because people nowadays don’t want to just have a discussion, they want to ruin your life by trying to get you arrested, fired, etc. And other people’s inability to control their emotions or keep a conversation as just as conversation is not my problem, but something I do have to adjust to

It’s also a form of bullying. It’s like “I bet you wouldn’t say that because if you did I would hit you or try to get you fired. Haha I win”

[Basanos]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I watch some channels like CharlieBo who walks through the worst ghettos and interviews gang members on pretty milquetoast questions like “what’s it like living here”, “what would you change about this”

and many times the teens and young adults mention they didn’t have a dad and other times the describe how OG gang members did stuff with them that you would normally imagine dad’s doing, like saying this is how you fight, this how you shave, this is how you pick up girls. OG gang members not only fill a huge void in their life, but they even groom them by buying them things. Here’s some drugs, check this gun out, you like this? It’s yours. Except now you gotta kill a guy

Single overwhelmed parent -> unsocialized (I don’t mean animals, just a bit of behavior problems) -> schools giving up on the kids due to behavior problems -> no education -> no jobs (not their fault) -> limited family = gang life

What do you propose about existing people who have fallen into this trap? Should there be reduced penalties for people who were indoctrinated into the so-called gang life and commit a crime?

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only reason I might choose my words more carefully is because people nowadays don’t want to just have a discussion, they want to ruin your life by trying to get you arrested, fired, etc. And other people’s inability to control their emotions or keep a conversation as just as conversation is not my problem, but something I do have to adjust to

It’s also a form of bullying. It’s like “I bet you wouldn’t say that because if you did I would hit you or try to get you fired. Haha I win”

If you are calling me a person who bullies conservatives online, I will gladly accept this honorable title

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That + lack of education + lack of job opportunity and who is going to become their new father figure? Gangs The State.

interestingly, the Sinaloa cartel has all but infiltrated/assimiliated/bought the major gangs in the US, they operate in like 50 cities with regular offices and outposts

they may look like bloods or crips out there on the streets, but they're actually owned by mexicans lol

[Basanos]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

interestingly, the Sinaloa cartel has all but infiltrated/assimiliated/bought the major gangs in the US, they operate in like 50 cities with regular offices and outposts

they may look like bloods or crips out there on the streets, but they're actually owned by mexicans lol

Capitalism creates opportunities for growth

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Basanos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What do you propose about existing people who have fallen into this trap? Should there be reduced penalties for people who were indoctrinated into the so-called gang life and commit a crime?

If you are calling me a person who bullies conservatives online, I will gladly accept this honorable title

Sure for young first offenders. It’s the career criminals who I don’t have much sympathy for

The only say I can see bullying online is threats towards someone’s livelihood or safety so no, you haven’t. But when you say “I bet you wouldn’t say that in person”, that’s WHY I wouldn’t. Because there is an implied threat to my safety or livelihood from some Dem who didn’t like what I said

And I’m sure you’d be thinking “well, if they could get you fired for what you said then I’m sure what you said musta been pretty bad” which is making a pretty big assumption that someone trying to get someone fired isn’t going to lie or exaggerate about what they said

I mean really, imagine a hypothetical of any Dem here giving me their work information, having me call in an anonymous report, and see how easy it is to deal with the shitstorm HR and PR nightmare that results. I can report whatever I want. “It’s just 1 crazy person calling in, you have no corroboration”. Ok, then I can find a bunch of friends to corroborate the story. Even getting through it, would be an absolute HR nightmare. And anyone who thinks otherwise, is welcome to try the hypothetical

That’s why I say people don’t want to just discuss things in person anymore. It’s likely to result in a physical fight or something outside the realm of conversation

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Basanos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Capitalism creates opportunities for growth

Lol yeah no drug addiction in non-capitalist societies!

Addiction creates opportunities for growth, that's literally all it is. They sell drugs that people are addicted to. Drugs would still exist in commietopia, you just have no civil means of exchanging anything for them so how do you think that plays out?

[misterbonkers]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Statistics show a correlation between single parent households and lots of problems

can confirm, as a child with only my mom with problems no disagreements there

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Black communities have by far the highest rates of single parent households

could be bullshit but I don't have any evidence to say otherwise, so i'll accept it as true. why is this so, and why won't you say why?

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes I am making an inference there. You don’t like it, feel free to implement one of the other Dem solutions that have worked SO WELL for the black community, because they’re sure doing great these days

why do i have to reuse old solutions when new ones can be made? like, idk, abolish labor exploitation in for profit/any state/fed funded prisons? if they have to work, at least pay them a fair wage? perhaps decriminalization of drug use? you like stats, so riddle me this

https://sites.tufts.edu/prisondivest...incarceration/

One key feature of mass incarceration in the US is the racial disparity in incarceration rates: people of color are incarcerated at disproportionately higher rates than white people. As indicated by Alexander above, the War on Drugs, which began in the late 1960s and continued throughout the next several decades, provides a clear case study for this trend: despite the fact that “people of all races use and sell illegal drugs at remarkably similar rates” people of color are incarcerated at rates far higher than their white counterparts (Alexander, 2010, 97). For example, “black men have been admitted to state prison on drug charges at a rate that is more than thirteen times higher than white men” (Alexander, 2010, 98). The disproportionate incarceration of people of color is not exclusive to drug crimes, but rather constitutes a broader trend across offenses. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) reveals that “one out of every three Black boys born today can expect to go to prison in his lifetime, as can one of every six Latino boys – compared to one of every 17 white boys.” Differential incarceration rates are not limited to race, and other marginalized groups – including poor people, queer people, and disabled people – are also disproportionately incarcerated.

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m saying this is a problem, that no one has tried solving, because you guys want to make a correlation not causation cop-out argument to avoid trying. Because keeping families together is such an evil idea amirite

you're the one avoiding trying, i'm at least throwing meaningful change ideas around rather than just blowing old and tired dogwhistles

[misterbonkers]

every time i open this thread i have an increasing urge to tell people to watch the wire