obama ever answer those petitions for secession?

[stonez138]

the South was losing money on it's cotton and tobacco plantations.

Really? on the eve of the War cotton accounted for nearly 60% of all U.S. exports.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by stonez138 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone that thinks the civil war wasn't fought over slavery is a fucking moron! Read a fucking book and pull your head out of your ass! Here's a quote from the V.P. of the confederacy....

The civil war was mainly in response to a dispute over whether or not new states would have slavery. The north was absolutely fine with the south having slaves and the south was absolutely fine with the north not having slaves. The southerners wanted the new states to have slavery and the northerners wanted the new states to be slavery free.

Also, Lincoln didn't give a shit about slavery either way.

If I can preserve the union and free all of the slaves, I will do that;
If I can preserve the union and free some of the slaves, I will do that;
If I can preserve the union and free none of the slaves, I will do that.
-Abraham Lincoln

[GODPARTICLE]

Saying the civil war was fought over slavery is like saying world war II was fought over jews

[quido]

I wish Texas would/could secede. The Deep South too.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by GODPARTICLE [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Saying the civil war was fought over slavery is like saying world war II was fought over jews

Terrible analogy is terrible.

[citizen1080]

Originally Posted by Black Jesus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also yea, your ignorance of the real causes of the civil war as Recycled Children point out further cement the fact that you're a moran socialist shithole, probably from a country in euro or canada or some other shitty british colony

Try Germany lol...and or German scientists on American soil. Just saying =)

[Hollywood]

Originally Posted by Recycled Children [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The war was over states' right to secede and not slavery. Slavery was on the outs anyways Lincoln used that as a platform to push his Henry Clay agenda.

You read his memoirs? It's quite clear 'honest' Abe didn't give a shit about the slaves, and why should he? He used it as political ammunition and nothing more.

They way his journals read, sounds like he'd let slavery resume once the war was over.

Originally Posted by GODPARTICLE
Saying the civil war was fought over slavery is like saying world war II was fought over jews

Truth. Two cases of where the American government should have kept their noses out and everyone would have been better off for it.

[GODPARTICLE]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wish Texas would/could secede. The Deep South too.

would move there in a heartbeat

[Recycled Children]

Originally Posted by Hollywood [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You read his memoirs? It's quite clear 'honest' Abe didn't give a shit about the slaves, and why should he? He used it as political ammunition and nothing more.

They way his journals read, sounds like he'd let slavery resume once the war was over.

Originally Posted by GODPARTICLE
Saying the civil war was fought over slavery is like saying world war II was fought over jews

Truth. Two cases of where the American government should have kept their noses out and everyone would have been better off for it.

I've read "The Real Lincoln" by Thomas Di Lorenzo. If anyone hasn't you should it's a great book. Lots of great quotes about shipping Africans back to Africa and South America and all of his fucked up British sympathizer politics.

We wouldn't have been in WW2 if not for FDR provoking Japan to attack us. There's some more history you actually have to do research on to get to the truth rather than relying on your school taught version of history.

Glad to see the reinforcements of history have arrived.

[Recycled Children]

Originally Posted by GODPARTICLE [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

would move there in a heartbeat

Me too.