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Old 11-22-2009, 04:57 PM
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alright next step to move forward:
Pheer's statement shows that MM was not beta'ed.
Is this true? any proof on either side?

Oh and false on the arm thing, the only agenda I have is for rules, procedure and enforcement.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:59 PM
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Cassaruby, learn to fucking research man.

FROM A TOPIC TITLED MAYONG MISTMOORE FROM LESS THAN THREE WEEKS AGO IN THE GENERAL DISCUSSION AREA.... THIS IS AEOLWIND'S POST ON PAGE 8

"To all the haters and vile venom's: Mayong did work on beta, but got bugged out when he was brought over. Some folks in beta may remember him being spawned in GFay towards the end. His script stopped functioning like it did. I told IB that he was bugged, but I have no way to test now like I did in beta cause with 1 person on his hate list, he works fine. They offered to pull and kill him I told them they could keep the dagger.

Now, I had good data to take back to test, tweak him and I have him working correctly. Classically, mayong was killable, he was removed at the 4 month mark cause Mistmoore used to have hellish pathing issues and kinda like what emu had before pathing nodes. Mobs would come from anywhere and everywhere to attack you including Mayong.

The way it was bugged: Mayong had 2 abilities that had a casting time, due to the way I had scripted it required instant cast abilities, since they had a casting time it would attempt to cast on everyone in the raid then interrupt. I've since found 2 abilities that mimic those abilities and have an instant casting time. I've also tweaked the priorities of his targets for his 3 combat abilities to make him more detrimental to those engaging him. He has also returned to summoning his adds and as such once the database gets patched up to live they'll also do more than stand there and look stupid.

What made me decided to have Mayong Killable: I'd originally setup the FA quest to work similar to the original. Requiring the dragon scales, Megalodon & Mayong's robe. After I scripted Mayong but decided against the original FA due to time constraints for going live I liked the script so much I left it.

Similar issues occurred on live as well, the first Lady Vox kill found her unitemized since Brad had deemed her unkillable and itemizing her was not a priority. He gave -everyone- in the raid a Fanged Skull Stiletto for their time. Rewarding IB with a single FSS for their time & offer to help I feel was well within line.

IB as a whole reports more bugs and exploits than any other group on the server & not only that; once they are found they cease using them before we even have time to ask them not too."

Btw, Hasbin didn't get the dagger. I did.




We don't beta test content. We play. When we find things that aren't working correctly we bring them to the GM's attention and then do as they tell us. Sometimes they tell us to leave the zone, sometimes they hotfix and ask us to try the encounter. Mistmoore was still difficult and we spent time planning the fight and engaging, so we got to keep the loot. End of topic on how that all came about.
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Old 11-22-2009, 04:59 PM
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How about PoH and the other planes, were they beta'ed or is IB gonna deny that too?
What is beta and what is IB doing.

So far:
IB didn't beta shit as far as they are concerned.
Gm's no comment on whether it was beta.
Other's say it was beta, was it?

Edit: no need to be a douche, i don't need to learn to research, i try to doesn't mean i hit everything. on a forum we need to work together to make sense out of all this.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:03 PM
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So anyway, back on topic..
Magic why did you leave as soon as I started talking real to you? Did the logic make you start melting?
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:04 PM
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Let me make this as clear as possible. NO GUILD OR PERSON WAS CALLED SPECIFICALLY TO BETA ANYTHING.

IB happened to be the first guild to attempt this content. As GM's/Dev's we wanted to watch and see how they turned out. Yes we wanted to make sure our scripting worked out the way we planned it but that would of happened no matter who was attempting these encounters.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:06 PM
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beta means they are testing Plane of Hate or Mayong Mistmoore, etc.
You mean fear, right?

Okay, so...

Let me get this straight.. you think they shouldnt be trying? I mean, is it the players fault for making it to level 50 faster than you?

And that they should just, oh, I dont know, sit arround farming giants or guk still or something.. when they dont need anything, when there is more content just sitting there?

Okay, so say in beta, they didnt have 15-25 people laying arround to attack the planes or major bosses? How the hell were they to have tested it then?

Is it the players fault for trying it?

Is it the dev's fault for not being able to previously?

Seriously, when you start expecting the impossible from reality to suit your own expectations of things, then you start imposing your flawed, and incorrect will upon the world. Five year olds do this all the time when they dont get the toy they want.

Grow the hell up.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:07 PM
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How about PoH and the other planes, were they beta'ed or is IB gonna deny that too?
What is beta and what is IB doing there thing.
So far:
IB didn't beta shit as far as they are concerned.
Gm's no comment on whether it was beta.
Other's say it was beta, was it?

Edit: no need to be a douche, i don't need to learn to research, i try to doesn't mean i hit everything. on a forum we need to work together to make sense out of all this.
I don't know who claimed we've been beta-ing stuff, but you can go ahead and believe them when the DEV team specifically states otherwise.

Plane of hate and air were open and functional, you can go find the whole deal in that specific post on the general forums too as to why they are no longer open.

Plane of fear is open and functional currently, and yes we are in it.



And yes, Cassa, you do need to learn to research before you make posts like that which unintentionally or intentionally drag IB's guild name through the mud more than it already has been.

Especially when all of those topics have been beaten to death many times on these boards.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:10 PM
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I'm not dragging you through the mud, calm down and don't embarrass yourself by nerd raging jesus.

and no i don't need to research more because i researched as much is reasonable and you have some pretty good sources.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:12 PM
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So unless anyone else has some evidence, IB seems to have cleared themselves of wrong-doing, unless anyone else has evidence.
Next step: how should beta be handled and hopefully another guild steps up to balance IB's pharaoh control on first content.
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:12 PM
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I'm not dragging you through the mud, calm down and don't embarrass yourself by nerd raging jesus.

and no i don't need to research more because i researched as much is reasonable and you have some pretty good sources.
Agree to disagree then.
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