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Old 06-18-2013, 03:58 PM
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WoW changed that by making completing quests by far the biggest XP earner, and so in one unintentional swoop turned MMOs into online single player games.
In WoW Vanilla, I found it much faster to solo grind mobs (in carefully chosen areas which were away from PvP) from 50-60 than to attempt to quest. I know a ton of others who preferred instance grinding with a group than attempting to solo quest and deal with perpetual PvP (although that was fun sometimes).

Basically, Mannoroth was a high population PvP server with a crapton of roaming gankers and hit squads. You'd end up broiled in PvP before you could get any real questing done.

Which was cool sometimes. Other times it was damn annoying.
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:00 PM
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A lot of stuff called 'quests' in mmorpg's nowadays shouldn't be, in my opinion. They are mostly just 'tasks'. run here, bring this, find these, kill that, now do it some more. Those aren't quests...quests are supposed to be something that is daunting and takes a long time and research and luck and staunch companions. Yknow, like in the movies. I like to think that the original EQ quests are more quest-like, and the zillions of teeny little 'quests' in WoW and I assume in EQII are more of the task variety.

I think the epics in EQ are still some of the best examples of actual quests worthy of the name you can find in any mmo.
Agreed.

WoW's version of epic quests are legendaries and are released one at a time, require consolidating all drops to a specific player, and are really nothing like EQ's epic quests.

Sure, lots of classes had bottleneck epics that required waiting in line within their guild, but in general people of different classes could all be working on and completing their epics at once.
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:05 PM
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EQ's epic quests are the best single implementation of quests and reward in any game I've played (the Coldain Ring quest is up there also). They were inspired. As a friend said recently, getting his Ranger epic was a life achievement. Ok, he was being ironic - but only a little.
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Old 06-18-2013, 05:50 PM
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MMORPG.com also gave SWTOR an award in 2011.... and it sucks. http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/5294

Just sayin....
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:26 PM
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EQ's epic quests are the best single implementation of quests and reward in any game I've played (the Coldain Ring quest is up there also). They were inspired. As a friend said recently, getting his Ranger epic was a life achievement. Ok, he was being ironic - but only a little.
Personally I think the design of triggering a mob that is specific to the epic quest is ideal. Show up with a bunch of people willing to help you, take down a challenging mob, get the piece.

Packing items on to normal raid targets sucks (unless raids are instanced).
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:31 PM
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But the wait makes the reward that much more gratifying
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Old 06-18-2013, 08:11 PM
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Yeah, I wouldn't put too much stock into what mmorpg.com says. That being said however, my guild already has been confirmed for testing, so I am eagerly awaiting that.
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Old 06-18-2013, 08:23 PM
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Yeah, I wouldn't put too much stock into what mmorpg.com says. That being said however, my guild already has been confirmed for testing, so I am eagerly awaiting that.
Who gave you that confirmation?
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Old 06-18-2013, 08:54 PM
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I hear it's even better than eq2
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Old 06-18-2013, 09:41 PM
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MMORPG.com also gave SWTOR an award in 2011.... and it sucks. http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/5294

Just sayin....
They gave it most anticipated because...it was the most anticipated MMO the hype was unreal.
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