How to enable Luclin Graphics

[guineapig]

I replaced all the original models with pokemon models. It took forever but now every time I log into the game I laugh at how all of you look.

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by frefaln [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's also a thread about how to update the world textures, so I'm curious about your views on this as well. If you want everyone to have the same visual experience (and I agree to a large degree), then what's the threshold? Should they all see the same world textures as well?

I'd prefer that we all use the same texture pack, but that is a bit less of an issue, since in most cases, it is just a hi res vs low res version of the same thing (signs are easier to read... but they say the same thing) and also, there are no player choices being disregarded since the players don't own the terrain the same way they own their avatars.

[Phallax]

I just dont understand why people want to play with "updated" graphics. If you want updated graphics go play live. This is a classic server built on nostalgia. Play it like you played it in 1999 or gtfo. If you didnt play in 1999 and claim to not have started till post luclin and new models are all you know then im sorry, you missed the best part of the game and need to re-live it like how it was ment to be.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just dont understand why people want to play with "updated" graphics. If you want updated graphics go play live. This is a classic server built on nostalgia. Play it like you played it in 1999 or gtfo. If you didnt play in 1999 and claim to not have started till post luclin and new models are all you know then im sorry, you missed the best part of the game and need to re-live it like how it was ment to be.

Did you know that some EQ players pick the gear they wear based on how it looks on them instead of just the stats? Should they also GTFO in your world?

[Overcast]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just dont understand why people want to play with "updated" graphics. If you want updated graphics go play live. This is a classic server built on nostalgia. Play it like you played it in 1999 or gtfo. If you didnt play in 1999 and claim to not have started till post luclin and new models are all you know then im sorry, you missed the best part of the game and need to re-live it like how it was ment to be.

I kinda lean this way too.

The old models give the game the 'classic feel' - personally. While personally, I have nothing against the Luclin models - I did like them ok..

Since I've looked for and finally found a place to play "Classic EQ" - I will in fact, play Classic EQ!

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you know that some EQ players pick the gear they wear based on how it looks on them instead of just the stats? Should they also GTFO in your world?

No because its a part of classic...
Im one of those people that prefer looks over stats...for the most part. I wore totemic for ever because I refused to have the leather look on a barbarian with gator legs and foremans, absolutely hate the look, so used totemic untill I could replace with other chain/plate looking items. Still using totemic legs today because the only upgrade other than pathetic leather looking legs are planar and I havent been to hate in months.

[dallammarr]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...you missed the best part of the game and need to re-live it like how it was ment to be.

The only problem I have with this statement is its flawed when talking about graphics updates on a game and "how it was supposed to be" We all know that at the time of Luclin is when SOE bought out Verant and soon after Mcquaid left and all so thats when EQ became an abomination. But I dont attribute that to the graphics. I attribute that to many of the other BS implementations that SOE put in the game. Some were nice but most were crap and turned EQ into something else.

For all we know, had Verant remained at the helm of EQ, the graphics probably would have still been updated to keep up with the competition from other games comming out with better graphics. Ill admit that many of the Luclin models were crap and could have been done better. Maybe some people depise the Luclin models because it reminds them of when EQ started its downcline. But i just dont agree with saying that the 10 year old models were the way it was always suppose to be. Itd a better argument to say if you really want the Classic EQ expirience (or as close as possible) then use the bad textures and old models.

Personally I feel people should graphically be able to view the game however they want. I am the type of person who will do something for a while for the sake of nostalgia but then later I may want to use upgraded models/textures for a better visual expirience. I like the option to switch depending on my mood and I dont feel I or anyone else for that matter should be told to GTFO because they may feel this way. Yes I bought and played the game from august of 1999 - feb 2007 with many breaks after luclin and so on was launched. Many of us have. Thats probably why the nostalgia wears off here and there and we would like options. Just adding my 2cp.

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by dallammarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only problem I have with this statement is its flawed when talking about graphics updates on a game and "how it was supposed to be" We all know that at the time of Luclin is when SOE bought out Verant and soon after Mcquaid left and all so thats when EQ became an abomination. But I dont attribute that to the graphics. I attribute that to many of the other BS implementations that SOE put in the game. Some were nice but most were crap and turned EQ into something else.

For all we know, had Verant remained at the helm of EQ, the graphics probably would have still been updated to keep up with the competition from other games comming out with better graphics. Ill admit that many of the Luclin models were crap and could have been done better. Maybe some people depise the Luclin models because it reminds them of when EQ started its downcline. But i just dont agree with saying that the 10 year old models were the way it was always suppose to be. Ite a better argument to say if you really want the Classic EQ expirience (or as close as possible) then use the bad textures and old models.

Personally I feel people should graphically be able to view the game however they want. I am the type of person who will do something for a while for the sake of nostalgia but then later I may want to use upgraded models/textures for a better visual expirience. I like the option to switch depending on my mood and I dont feel I or anyone else for that matter should be told to GTFO because they may feel this way. Yes I bought and played the game from august of 1999 - feb 2007 with many breaks after luclin and so on was launched. Many of us have. Thats probably why the nostalgia wears off here and there and we would like options. Just adding my 2cp.

Im not saying how it was meant to be on live, Im saying how P99 was meant to be played, with a classic, nostalgic feeling.

[legendbyname]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just dont understand why people want to play with "updated" graphics. If you want updated graphics go play live. This is a classic server built on nostalgia. Play it like you played it in 1999 or gtfo. If you didnt play in 1999 and claim to not have started till post luclin and new models are all you know then im sorry, you missed the best part of the game and need to re-live it like how it was ment to be.

Character models, UI's, and textures have nothing to do with the nostalgia of playing EQ classic for me. Cosmetic changes have no impact on gameplay, but instead just make it easier on my eyes. I can still enjoy classic everquest playing in 1920x1080, with two monitors, some updated graphics, and a much faster internet connection. Did you add a dial-up line to your computer to keep it "classic" too?

Nobody is asking to break any game mechanics, quests, balancing, etc. If it was just a simple "flip the switch" option to get Luclin models added I'd be all for it, but since it will require the devs to do some work I understand why there's no use adding them in (for the Titanium client at least).

In some cases the Luclin models are pretty bad I'll admit, but I still prefer them over the original Ogre/Troll models.

[soup]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you know that some EQ players pick the gear they wear based on how it looks on them instead of just the stats? Should they also GTFO in your world?

And when you do so, you still see it exactly how you want to see it, right? And if someone sees it differently, you never know the difference. Do you see people going "Damn.... I wonder if he sees me the way he's supposed to. I mean, he MIGHT see me as a Luclin model, and that makes things less fun for me."

How your character looks on other peoples screens when you never know the difference one way or another is such an incredibly trivial and asinine thing to worry about.

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im not saying how it was meant to be on live, Im saying how P99 was meant to be played, with a classic, nostalgic feeling.

This is true, but, if someone finds enjoyment for different reasons, is that really so bad?

I mean, I hate Luclin models, but I can't even fathom caring if someone else wants to use them.