Bannings and why it doesn't work

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Agaron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why can't the GM's just stay off player disputing, even guild raiding, and let them deal with it on their own? On live we had 3 guilds that had a rotation on bosses. Guess what happened if they broke that rotation? They said fuck you, and did whatever they wanted. It's just like irl... you break a treaty, and you go to war.

GM's should be fixing exploiting, hacks, and game issues vs. intervening player disputes.

Why can't the game just be played how it's? I mean if someone trains, don't stand there? Move the fuck out, or fight the train?

I mean if a guild can take out a boss with 50 people cool, but at least make it so a guild with 20 can compete against that guild if they're all afk.

Because innocent players that have or want nothing to do with the situation get caught in the middle. And by that same token, what if a guild doesn't want to be involved in that kind of atmosphere?

I come from emarr. Home of Da'Kor, Ice Clan & at one point, a guild that exuded the type of atmosphere that guilds want on this server: Ebonlore. Ebonlore was disbanded by Uini for training, leap frogging, general mayhem & irreverence to other players, the guild leader banned, and I think every officer banned. Not only that, the guild name of Ebonlore was restricted from usage across all servers. I don't want to get to that point, but it is heading there. However, following that incident, every guild feared Uini, even when she went to other servers; Uini did not mess around. Because of this, rotations held until near the end of Luclin when Magister gave VT to Divine Grace after they'd farmed it empty. In lieu of a rotation on stuff like TOV, if it started popping DK/Magi & MS communicated. ST, had a flat rotation, if you were an hour late to the set start time, you gave it up & everyone agreed to that.

I'm not saying it was roses and butterfly farts; but if there was a dispute, it was handled between whoever was in charge without many incidents. Yeah, guilds trying to make a name for themselves bucked up sometimes, but when MS, SF and DK were more than willing to assure you got 0 raid targets you towed the line. Yeah, there were trains, but those that lived by the train, died by the train. Nothing more entertaining than another guild training raids because of what they did to your guild or summat.

Here is the huge difference between here and there, then and now: It's every man for himself here. No one is willing to give an inch because they feel like they'll be taken advantage of (and rightly so). There is no respect between the individual guilds themselves or between the guilds and the staff. Personally, I don't give a damn what you do to each other. But, when a guild comes along that doesn't want to be involved in that crap, we have to get involved, because they have just as much right and privilege as someone else to try to enjoy themselves and the server.

[Pico]

Originally Posted by Aeolwind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because innocent players that have or want nothing to do with the situation get caught in the middle. And by that same token, what if a guild doesn't want to be involved in that kind of atmosphere?

I come from emarr. Home of Da'Kor, Ice Clan & at one point, a guild that exuded the type of atmosphere that guilds want on this server: Ebonlore. Ebonlore was disbanded by Uini for training, leap frogging, general mayhem & irreverence to other players, the guild leader banned, and I think every officer banned. Not only that, the guild name of Ebonlore was restricted from usage across all servers. I don't want to get to that point, but it is heading there. However, following that incident, every guild feared Uini, even when she went to other servers; Uini did not mess around. Because of this, rotations held until near the end of Luclin when Magister gave VT to Divine Grace after they'd farmed it empty. In lieu of a rotation on stuff like TOV, if it started popping DK/Magi & MS communicated. ST, had a flat rotation, if you were an hour late to the set start time, you gave it up & everyone agreed to that.

I'm not saying it was roses and butterfly farts; but if there was a dispute, it was handled between whoever was in charge without many incidents. Yeah, guilds trying to make a name for themselves bucked up sometimes, but when MS, SF and DK were more than willing to assure you got 0 raid targets you towed the line. Yeah, there were trains, but those that lived by the train, died by the train. Nothing more entertaining than another guild training raids because of what they did to your guild or summat.

Here is the huge difference between here and there, then and now: It's every man for himself here. No one is willing to give an inch because they feel like they'll be taken advantage of (and rightly so). There is no respect between the individual guilds themselves or between the guilds and the staff. Personally, I don't give a damn what you do to each other. But, when a guild comes along that doesn't want to be involved in that crap, we have to get involved, because they have just as much right and privilege as someone else to try to enjoy themselves and the server.

yes that's nice but I WANT THIS SERVER RUN MY WAY YOU BETTER DO IT OR I WILL BE SPEND LITERALLY DAYS OF MY LIFE BEING A NUISANCE ON A FREE SERVER YOU BETTER WATCH URSEL

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Pico [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes that's nice but I WANT THIS SERVER RUN MY WAY YOU BETTER DO IT OR I WILL BE SPEND LITERALLY DAYS OF MY LIFE BEING A NUISANCE ON A FREE SERVER YOU BETTER WATCH URSEL

I like you.

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by Aeolwind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like you.

I thought you hated us all!

[Agaron]

Originally Posted by Aeolwind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because innocent players that have or want nothing to do with the situation get caught in the middle. And by that same token, what if a guild doesn't want to be involved in that kind of atmosphere?

I come from emarr. Home of Da'Kor, Ice Clan & at one point, a guild that exuded the type of atmosphere that guilds want on this server: Ebonlore. Ebonlore was disbanded by Uini for training, leap frogging, general mayhem & irreverence to other players, the guild leader banned, and I think every officer banned. Not only that, the guild name of Ebonlore was restricted from usage across all servers. I don't want to get to that point, but it is heading there. However, following that incident, every guild feared Uini, even when she went to other servers; Uini did not mess around. Because of this, rotations held until near the end of Luclin when Magister gave VT to Divine Grace after they'd farmed it empty. In lieu of a rotation on stuff like TOV, if it started popping DK/Magi & MS communicated. ST, had a flat rotation, if you were an hour late to the set start time, you gave it up & everyone agreed to that.

I'm not saying it was roses and butterfly farts; but if there was a dispute, it was handled between whoever was in charge without many incidents. Yeah, guilds trying to make a name for themselves bucked up sometimes, but when MS, SF and DK were more than willing to assure you got 0 raid targets you towed the line. Yeah, there were trains, but those that lived by the train, died by the train. Nothing more entertaining than another guild training raids because of what they did to your guild or summat.

Here is the huge difference between here and there, then and now: It's every man for himself here. No one is willing to give an inch because they feel like they'll be taken advantage of (and rightly so). There is no respect between the individual guilds themselves or between the guilds and the staff. Personally, I don't give a damn what you do to each other. But, when a guild comes along that doesn't want to be involved in that crap, we have to get involved, because they have just as much right and privilege as someone else to try to enjoy themselves and the server.

As it sits DA could zerg pretty much any raid boss they want (and this has nothing to do with DA as a guild), and IB before that. How's that fair to other guilds?

It's pretty obvious GM's in general aren't going to care as much, or be as professional as GM's on live due to not being paid. I'm sure most GM decisions are done out of self enjoyment or e-power trip. No offense.

I just don't think intervening because people "don't play nice" should happen in any mmo game. That's like telling someone in WoW, UO, DaoC, or anyother game not to kill me, because I want to have fun. I mean this game has a language filter, and ignore feature. Play the game with how the mechanics were set?

Not to mention you're assuming just because 1 guild enjoys candyland rules... what about the rest who can't stand the current rules?

It's pretty clear that everyone hates afk camping, yet no one wants to do anything about it. FFA will fix that. I'm pretty sure it can't make things any worse than they already are? People already train.

[Pico]

Originally Posted by Spades [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just want to say fuck u all and and im back on this server Duping items and giving them to noobs just so u all know so fuck all yall

GO ABACAB

YEAH THIS IS RAREN BICTHES

I GOT BANNED BUT MY EMOTIONAL INVESTMENT TO THIS GAME IS SO FIERCE INSTEAD OF GOING TO FIND SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE TO YOU IMA PROVE TO YALL HOW PATHETIC I REALLY AM PLEASE STANDBY FOR MY INEVITABLE SUICIDE

[Pico]

Originally Posted by Spades [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol bro u pisst? Yeah i know Rogean was asking about me duping items because he knows there is another dupe out yeah Rogean bro its me bitch so gl figuring it out because you fucking cant thats why we had to tell u how to fix it the last go around because ur actually a fgucking idiot GM

SUICIDE INC AFTER DUPE FIX PLEASE STICK AROUND

[Abacab2]

WUT

[Abacab2]

Damn son, Boyz N'Tha Hood up in here?

[Bubbles]

I am so lost in this thread.

All i know is this:

The people who play the game spend their time playing it. The ones who no longer can/want to seem to be in R&Fs posting 10x a day.

There's gotta be some insight in that statement, but i'm still trying to discern it.