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Old 01-13-2014, 11:37 AM
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Putting the trolling aside I don't really know if Tune deserved a ban in the first place. I do however believe in banned players staying banned if they deserved it no matter how much they do for the server. Server integrity has to be number one and if people think they can get out of bans it allows them to cheat again.

If Tune is unbanned a GM needs to state why and what mistake was made by the GMs.

I believe in suspensions and think permabans should be reserved for multiple or severe offenses.

If you are on a server and find out one day others are cheating and you have been wasting your time it kills a server. Integrity is something project 1999 has always taken pride in and it shouldn't sacrifice that to keep someone because they power level and raid a lot.
While I theoretically agree with you, the punishment still needs to fit the crime. Tune got hit when the GMs were duel wield + rampaging banhammers to show they meant business at the start of the PNP. He also took a worse punishment than many others that comitted similar minor offenses.

GMs: We get it. You want to clean up the server. Things are improving, people are following the rules. You've proven your point, I think it's time to show that you are merciful overlords and unban Tune among others.

And can we stop calling a minor PNP violation "cheating"? It might technically be true by the strict definition of the word but imagine some new player trying to decide if he/she wants to play here and every other thread talks about someone cheating. I would think this server is nothing but hackers and MQers...when in reality its cleaner than any EQ server in the history of EQ.
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Old 01-13-2014, 11:42 AM
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While I theoretically agree with you, the punishment still needs to fit the crime. Tune got hit when the GMs were duel wield + rampaging banhammers to show they meant business at the start of the PNP. He also took a worse punishment than many others that comitted similar minor offenses.

GMs: We get it. You want to clean up the server. Things are improving, people are following the rules. You've proven your point, I think it's time to show that you are merciful overlords and unban Tune among others.

And can we stop calling a minor PNP violation "cheating"? It might technically be true by the strict definition of the word but imagine some new player trying to decide if he/she wants to play here and every other thread talks about someone cheating. I would think this server is nothing but hackers and MQers...when in reality its cleaner than any EQ server in the history of EQ.
I said I believe in suspensions for smaller crimes. I assume Tune's ban is because of other infractions in the past. If this was the only thing he ever did I 100% think he should be unbanned.

That is also why I said if he is unbanned GMs should explain why publicly. They should admit to their mistakes instead of just outright unbanning him. That would give the wrong idea to other players and stupid theories of donating, etc. would arise. You may say who gives a shit what people think but preserving box integrity is important.
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Old 01-13-2014, 11:45 AM
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tune has been banned over and over and over , finally they made it final, look at tune, vs smedy.... i play as much as i can, i've been banned once, for 2box

tune has been in the shitter atleast 5 times +, let it be final, smedy has clean whistle, will not cheat again and i follow pnp rules.
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Old 01-13-2014, 11:56 AM
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tune has been banned over and over and over , finally they made it final, look at tune, vs smedy.... i play as much as i can, i've been banned once, for 2box

tune has been in the shitter atleast 5 times +, let it be final, smedy has clean whistle, will not cheat again and i follow pnp rules.
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Old 01-13-2014, 11:59 AM
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This doesn't sound like Tune. Maybe he accidentally trained you. I've tried soloing in lguk on Twainz and had some issues where I had to either die or train. Being bound in OT at the time, I was not trying to die. If he was training you on purpose you should fraps it and petition it. Otherwise, I do not believe you.
That was a long time ago. It doesn't matter really. I'm just putting things into perspective.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:01 PM
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tune has been banned over and over and over , finally they made it final, look at tune, vs smedy.... i play as much as i can, i've been banned once, for 2box

tune has been in the shitter atleast 5 times +, let it be final, smedy has clean whistle, will not cheat again and i follow pnp rules.
This is what I was referring to when I said if he actually deserved it then it needs to be final. People keep bringing up the last infraction and saying the PnP was not evenly enforced. If the PnP is all he had done I don't know if there is a person on the server that wouldn't agree that he needs to be unbanned.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:01 PM
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That was a long time ago. It doesn't matter really. I'm just putting things into perspective.
Stasis trains in Sebilis all the time. Checkraise, your leader, said he doesn't care. Does Stasis need to be banned?
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:03 PM
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Stasis trains in Sebilis all the time. Checkraise, your leader, said he doesn't care. Does Stasis need to be banned?
Wow twainz you are being a little bitch. The guy is pretty level headed you are talking to and wasn't trying to say Tune should be banned for the lguk trains. He was just sharing that power leveling nnobs and gearing up people aren't the only things Tune does as you were inferring.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:20 PM
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As a server veteran I can tell you the staff has shown tune mercy for far too long. This was a huge accumulation of offenses being addressed.
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Old 01-13-2014, 12:21 PM
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Stasis trains in Sebilis all the time. Checkraise, your leader, said he doesn't care. Does Stasis need to be banned?
I said I "didn't care"? Excuse me? I was there for that "train" and it was identical to what you guys did when you charged us @ fungi king. No one was trained. Give me a break.
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