Easy solo spots for a 35 shaman on kunark

[Roth]

Originally Posted by Asap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude is getting pissed because we are doing the work for him by searching for specific zones and mobs he can melee easily. Search that shit yourself next time

you can go to hell with this kind of thinking honestly... next time just don't answer the post if you have nothing good to say. I asked for kunark spots for anyone who wanted to answer. if someone wants to come in and say no do it this way then they shouldn't even reply instead of acting like they're all high and mighty. It's not a "we". you are not part of some special community. It was a question to anyone who wanted to answer, I wasn't asking you specifically so next time just go read another thread instead of coming in and acting like I owe you something.

if the situation was reversed and I saw a post like this, I would offer my own suggestions in regards to the question asked. I would not tell the op they were wrong or to do something else. I would also not act like the op owed me something because I copy and pasted a paragraph that someone else wrote.

[Duckwalk]

Grouped with this clown in MM. He refused to heal, root, dot or essentially do anything besides cast his ~100 dmg nuke once per mob.

Ask me if I'm surprised he wants a easy melee shm spot in kunark and gets irritated a the community for suggesting vastly more efficient play styles and locations in old world...

[Roth]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Grouped with this clown in MM. He refused to heal, root, dot or essentially do anything besides cast his ~100 dmg nuke once per mob.

Ask me if I'm surprised he wants a easy melee shm spot in kunark and gets irritated a the community for suggesting vastly more efficient play styles and locations in old world...

Except I don't go to mm... so that wasn't me. I also don't even use my nuke, I would have used my dot if I was going to. I grouped at mm once at level 30 as a healer, a couple weeks ago. So I don't know if you have me confused with someone else. In groups I don't play like you describe at all.

[Lyrith]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's not completely true. I've leveled a shaman to 55 recently, and with a Barbarian Spiritist's Hammer it certainly seemed better to tank sometimes ... or at least it did before the nerf (I haven't been using mine much since the nerf so I can't say for sure now). Similarly with a JBB it can also make sense to tank, because it breaks root frequently.

With just a poison wind censor and no BSH or JBB though, I'm not so sure; OP really needs to do the math if they want to know for sure whether tanking is a good idea. It might seem like rooting always wins, since you get more mana and take less damage, but you also have to consider:

* the mana cost of root itself
* the time it takes to root
* the damage you'll still take (while rooting, when root breaks, etc.)
* the melee damage you won't deal

So it's not necessarily clear-cut.

P.S. To get back to the OP's original question: Per-Level Hunting Guide

Yeah, but I doubt he has ANY of those items. I'm just saying with my Fungi/JBB/etc that sometimes I wonder if I should just be root parking mobs instead... I couldn't imagine trying to tank as a shaman without some of these high end items. I would consider Howling Harpoon high end as well since he is not twinked.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Originally Posted by Lyrith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, but I doubt he has ANY of those items. I'm just saying with my Fungi/JBB/etc that sometimes I wonder if I should just be root parking mobs instead... I couldn't imagine trying to tank as a shaman without some of these high end items. I would consider Howling Harpoon high end as well since he is not twinked.

This.

I had a Jade prod on my shaman and was AC/hp geared. Tanking was wayyyy slower than root dotting, and root dotting was wayyyy slower than duoing.

[Roth]

Originally Posted by Yumyums Inmahtumtums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This.

I had a Jade prod on my shaman and was AC/hp geared. Tanking was wayyyy slower than root dotting, and root dotting was wayyyy slower than duoing.

I will defend my point of view on this. If you look at the high end shaman items, they are not significantly different than cultural crafted gear in terms of pure grinding efficiency. So for example if you have an item with 16 ac and another item with 20 ac, overall the difference will not be enough to make an impact so significant that you won't be able to take hits. With full buffs I have around 750 ac. I can go through about 3 easy db/high lb mobs before needing to med roughly with meelee.

Maybe this is not the MOST efficient way to level, but it is a lot easier than root dotting mobs where if you make a mistake you will instantly die. Which is why I asked for easy solo spots, not necessarily the fastest exp per hour solo spots. If you look at iksar regen + regen buff it's not much downtime at all to level like this and I get more exp than grouping most likely because some easy mobs slow is not even necessary to kill them.

If I wanted to answer my own question, I would have said things like tundra yetis in dl, servants of sythrax in field of bone, brutes outside dalnir, giants in warslik. I was hoping with this post to find new areas to go in so I didn't have to use the same spots every time. Since posting I have done my own testing/exploring to find a spot I like. So it's not like I won't put in the work, I wanted to see if anyone had any ideas that I wouldn't have thought of on my own.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Lyrith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, but I doubt he has ANY of those items. I'm just saying with my Fungi/JBB/etc that sometimes I wonder if I should just be root parking mobs instead... I couldn't imagine trying to tank as a shaman without some of these high end items. I would consider Howling Harpoon high end as well since he is not twinked.

I doubt it too, but still depending on the OP's level and armor the Poison Wind Censor *might* do enough damage to justify tanking. There are so many factors involved I just don't think it's as simple as "Shaman (with no fungi/JBB) should never tank". I think if you don't have those things, and are considering tanking, you should log a few fights and calculate what the best option is (or at least do "back of the napkin" math).

[Lyrith]

Originally Posted by Yumyums Inmahtumtums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This.

I had a Jade prod on my shaman and was AC/hp geared. Tanking was wayyyy slower than root dotting, and root dotting was wayyyy slower than duoing.

I've noticed about the same thing. I prefer a Monk with me and possibly a chanter charming as well. Exp flies in CoM like that compared to soloing.

Originally Posted by Roth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will defend my point of view on this. If you look at the high end shaman items, they are not significantly different than cultural crafted gear in terms of pure grinding efficiency. So for example if you have an item with 16 ac and another item with 20 ac, overall the difference will not be enough to make an impact so significant that you won't be able to take hits. With full buffs I have around 750 ac. I can go through about 3 easy db/high lb mobs before needing to med roughly with meelee.

Maybe this is not the MOST efficient way to level, but it is a lot easier than root dotting mobs where if you make a mistake you will instantly die. Which is why I asked for easy solo spots, not necessarily the fastest exp per hour solo spots. If you look at iksar regen + regen buff it's not much downtime at all to level like this and I get more exp than grouping most likely because some easy mobs slow is not even necessary to kill them.

If I wanted to answer my own question, I would have said things like tundra yetis in dl, servants of sythrax in field of bone, brutes outside dalnir, giants in warslik. I was hoping with this post to find new areas to go in so I didn't have to use the same spots every time. Since posting I have done my own testing/exploring to find a spot I like. So it's not like I won't put in the work, I wanted to see if anyone had any ideas that I wouldn't have thought of on my own.

Roth you need to be careful how you type because your context can be misconstrued and it appears you're attacking us again for helping you. Plus I don't think you understand the concept of root/rotting mobs if you think 1 mistake will kill you. It's not like your trying to fight mobs 10+ levels above you that are deep red. You are parking 3-4 mobs of the same level you are meleeing. This process seems longer but allows you to kill more mobs quicker in the long run. However it is not "THE EASIEST" thing to do. I think you may have played the wrong class if you are wanting to engage a mob and just hit auto-attack.

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I doubt it too, but still depending on the OP's level and armor the Poison Wind Censor *might* do enough damage to justify tanking. There are so many factors involved I just don't think it's as simple as "Shaman (with no fungi/JBB) should never tank". I think if you don't have those things, and are considering tanking, you should log a few fights and calculate what the best option is (or at least do "back of the napkin" math).

Agreed, really a lot of variables. My shaman is my most enjoyed class, so I don't mind being the most efficient way to EXP, just like Roth is kind of saying above. However I love playing around and seeing that I can survive with 3 mobs on me.

[Roth]

Originally Posted by Lyrith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've noticed about the same thing. I prefer a Monk with me and possibly a chanter charming as well. Exp flies in CoM like that compared to soloing.



Roth you need to be careful how you type because your context can be misconstrued and it appears you're attacking us again for helping you. Plus I don't think you understand the concept of root/rotting mobs if you think 1 mistake will kill you. It's not like your trying to fight mobs 10+ levels above you that are deep red. You are parking 3-4 mobs of the same level you are meleeing. This process seems longer but allows you to kill more mobs quicker in the long run. However it is not "THE EASIEST" thing to do. I think you may have played the wrong class if you are wanting to engage a mob and just hit auto-attack.



Agreed, really a lot of variables. My shaman is my most enjoyed class, so I don't mind being the most efficient way to EXP, just like Roth is kind of saying above. However I love playing around and seeing that I can survive with 3 mobs on me.

I am really annoyed with the mob mentality on these forums, so you would be somewhat correct on the context in which I'm posting. I am only defending my position really to show that I'm not an idiot. I have some idea of what I'm saying. I'm not delusional enough to post all this and still expect help or something, I'm more than prepared to let this thread die.

[Lamil]

Also if OP had posted this in the Priest/shaman forums he would have gotten better answers than throwing it out on server chat.