A Plea to the Staff of Project 1999

[Penoy]

Originally Posted by Zexa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tirooph was with us, what? 1 day before he was banned. He wasn't a member and you won't find anyone arguing that someone using speed hacks should not be banned. You seem pretty butt hurt all of a sudden. You know that the second poisons were stated to be over powered Otto and Hasbin both banked all their poisons(even though other rogues were still seen using them and nothing was done about it). Don't drag those two through the mud just because you are upset. Neither one of them complained at all when they were told poisons were off the table. I was there in vent when it happened. Sorry you couldn't see it on DACRUSHA.

Well technically he was a member...the trial period was used after Cohort and draum. and the poisons used on Naggy!.. they said they were overpowered and still was used... anything about deleveling?.... just letting people know from someone who was on the inside...and i still havent heard a response for using a bugged mob as a pet

[Zexa]

I'm telling you about facts that I know, discrediting rumors you are spreading. From the very second they were told not to use poisons they banked them until they were told it was allowed again.

[Penoy]

Originally Posted by Zexa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm telling you about facts that I know, discrediting rumors you are spreading. From the very second they were told not to use poisons they banked them until they were told it was allowed again.

i dont doubt that....but thats the same as doing the tumpy tonic quest...until a higher figure told them to stop...i guess its ok to do... and still any word on why a bugged mob was charmed...seeing that transc was roasted for charming a kunark mob... using a mob that HT every second to kill mobs in fear is ok

[Hasbinbad]

Yeah, that knight was used until it was determined to be completely fucked by the gm we told to come look at it iirc Rogean? We might have gotten through ten trash mobs a twitch faster. Are you fucking kidding me about Draum? Those scrubs had bronze on and hardly even contributed. Any two other people would have filled their shoes. We didn't know they were hacked and they didn't use any hacked methods beyond the ability of 2 undergeared players. They were in the wrong, IB has nothing to apologize for here.

Obviously on the same level as knowingly exploiting pathing to bypass an encounter and allowing players to kill and loot raid bosses with completely non-functioning scripts.

People keep bringing up our Mayong kill, but one very important difference between that situation and the ones we present is that we were cooperating with a dev GM who was actively tweaking the encounter based on our engagement. Call it beta testing or whatever, whine all you want. The fact is that we actually killed a pretty buff Mayong before the GM decided the script needed to be overhauled. That GM decided that our efforts warranted a reward and granted the item. Call it favoritism or whine however you want, this is the way it is. It most certainly is not however, an exploit. I just cannot believe that you people will just make shit up and spout it as if it is truth.

If you weren't there, shut your fucking mouth.

We WERE there, we DID see, we GOT IT ON VIDEO.

[Penoy]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, that knight was used until it was determined to be completely fucked by the gm we told to come look at it iirc Rogean? We might have gotten through ten trash mobs a twitch faster.

so its ok to use an exploit til its deemed completely fucked... so its ok that magic leveled his druid to 50 with tumpy tonics... it wasnt deemed completely fucked until GMs got it... and we used the knight..til it eventually got us wiped....

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Penoy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so its ok to use an exploit til its deemed completely fucked... so its ok that magic leveled his druid to 50 with tumpy tonics... it wasnt deemed completely fucked until GMs got it... and we used the knight..til it eventually got us wiped....

Meh, you can try and draw false analogies all day long Penoy, but I think we both know that's beneath you. I know you're a dick but you never seemed petty to me. I'm not defending the use of the Knights, I didn't think that was right; to say that charming a mob we had to face (risk vs. reward ethic) (and which like you said ended up wiping us) is anywhere near the same as using an obvious bug to gain 50 levels.. ..that's just retarded. I don't think you're a retard Penoy, but you're doing retarded things and I wish you would stop. If you honestly have or ever had a gripe about how IB runs things, you would and should have reported it long before now. That you are doing it now signals to everyone involved that you are doing it simply to spite us. That's kind of messed up man. I know everyone hates you, and yeah, I even hate you kind of. But you know this and you fostered it - it was fun. I understand it. You know this. You don't need to turn on everyone just because some people couldn't take your shit anymore. I would fight for you if I could man, but what they say is true and I don't really have a leg to stand on. Please don't start throwing false and overblown accusations at all of us because you have issues with some of us.

[Penoy]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Meh, you can try and draw false analogies all day long Penoy, but I think we both know that's beneath you. I know you're a dick but you never seemed petty to me. I'm not defending the use of the Knights, I didn't think that was right; to say that charming a mob we had to face (risk vs. reward ethic) (and which like you said ended up wiping us) is anywhere near the same as using an obvious bug to gain 50 levels.. ..that's just retarded. I don't think you're a retard Penoy, but you're doing retarded things and I wish you would stop. If you honestly have or ever had a gripe about how IB runs things, you would and should have reported it long before now. That you are doing it now signals to everyone involved that you are doing it simply to spite us. That's kind of messed up man. I know everyone hates you, and yeah, I even hate you kind of. But you know this and you fostered it - it was fun. I understand it. You know this. You don't need to turn on everyone just because some people couldn't take your shit anymore. I would fight for you if I could man, but what they say is true and I don't really have a leg to stand on. Please don't start throwing false and overblown accusations at all of us because you have issues with some of us.

you know your my homie since day 1 hasbin since gnomercys silent treatment and the JV groups in crushbone(which i was never in!)...... i just wanted everyone to know the WHOLE truth ... ya the "risk reward" might be totally different with my analogy but an exploit is an exploit...

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Penoy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you know your my homie since day 1 hasbin since gnomercys silent treatment and the JV groups in crushbone(which i was never in!)...... i just wanted everyone to know the WHOLE truth ... ya the "risk reward" might be totally different with my analogy but an exploit is an exploit...

Penoy, your logic as I see it is as follows:

All ants are animals.
All elephants are animals.
Therefore, all ants are elephants.

This is a classic breach in logic, and is used to show people how ludicrous it is to extrapolate the general from the specific.

[Goobles]

The fact of the matter is, there is NOT enough content for the raiding guilds to kill.

Amendment: release hate/sky/solro.. give them something to do..

Before long, there will be another 2-3 high level guilds competing for the same mobs. Then guilds will only have a shot at Naggy/Vox once a month?!!

Either lower spawn times to 3.5 days each, and keep your rotation.. or release more shit.

Thanks.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Goobles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact of the matter is, there is NOT enough content for the raiding guilds to kill.

Amendment: release hate/sky/solro.. give them something to do..

Before long, there will be another 2-3 high level guilds competing for the same mobs. Then guilds will only have a shot at Naggy/Vox once a month?!!

Either lower spawn times to 3.5 days each, and keep your rotation.. or release more shit.

Thanks.

I am so glad Goobles is not in IB anymore. Enjoying our rejects, Trans?
Also:

Originally Posted by Otto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To the GM Staff of Project 1999:

I understand all of the hard work you've put in for this server to be what it is.

Actually, I don't. And I sincerely doubt ANYONE here can fully understand the amount of work you have put in for well over a year on this project. I would like to think that everyone is grateful for your work, but as we have seen over the past 2+ months, some people don't care.

There are your MacroQuesters, your Dupers, your two-boxers, your exploiters & cheaters. These individuals are specifically going against your wishes and destroying the integrity of the server. You have dealt with many of them, and some have been given second chances. However, some have not been dealt with. This is where the issue arises.

If you would stop sticking your heads into the raid target situation, you could deal with factual evidence of people exploiting, server development, and maybe even have a moment or two of relaxation!

Lets look at how this developed:

1. Raid targets begin as IB downs naggy 2x.
2. Server attack, Trans gets a shot at naggy.
3. Aeolwind pulls myself and Allizia aside to see if we can come to agreement.
4. One is not set in stone, but an idea is layed out.
5. IB moves on to kill vox, clear fear, kill Draco + CT. IB then downs naggy again.
6. Trans moves in to Permafrost for 14 hours.
7. Trans wipes to Lady Vox.
8. We were prepped and ready to go should this be the case, but we decide against it due to lag from DDOS (in good faith, in the spirit of fairness, and against our own self-interest).
9. After 3hours of patiently waiting for them to have a fair attempt, we leave. The ddos lag was too bad.
10. I receive a call at 1ish in the morning saying Trans had just killed a Vox that wasn't AEing. Rather than Tibador logging on his GM and reloading the PL (as has been done with us SEVERAL times), they just kill him.
11. They act as if its a legit Vox kill, and don't petition until afterwards. Whatever, deep breath, moving on:
12. Fear goes down for maintenance.
13. Trans moves into solb for 14 hours.
14. We decide to move in and attempt to be first to engage as the rules imply that we should.
15. Wenai steps in and sets up a server rotation with Aeolwind.

At no point in that pile of nonsense was there ever word to me about a rotation being enforced. I don't know who were the ones QQing and whining to you, but it certainly wasn't IB. It was a one sided complaint that you gave in to. It was only after this stupid rotation that you've implemented in which we started to bring our concerns to you. It seems to me that rather than dealing with the problem properly, you gave into people whining about not getting content handed to them. If you left it to the guilds, it would always be a competition for mobs; first prepared and first to engage.

I don't understand why the rotation was such a priority. We had shown good faith when we dealt with Lady Vox during the DDOS. On the other hand, there has been documented proof presented of Allizia and Tibador exploiting after specifically being warned about the Phinny pull. Then, on top of that, not fixing an obviously broken Vox before they downed her.

These issues have been brought to your attention as of one week ago today. A Whole week, and no repercussions. This is _sad_ when you consider the fact that we now have a 14 day MINIMUM ban hammer over our heads for handling raid targets in the classic manner.

Rather than giving it time to play out and see where it would lead, we've had to watch the GM's waste huge amounts of their time developing a very poor rotation which we are forced to follow for fear of a 14 day ban. This is just causing more ungratefulness for the server, and even more complaints. Please focus on the server, the broken content, and those who are exploiting it rather than the guild drama that is extremely one sided.