Spell Casting and Ducking/Jumping - Page 4

**nilbog** · #31 09-13-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Knightmare [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh no, not saying that. By all means develop away! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My confusion is this:

Ducking currently stops spell casting in P99 instantly (if memory serves, I'm at work atm). By the original post it looks like Rogean is saying it shouldn't do that, and wants to remove it until we get to that "June 27, 2001 3:00 am" patch date in P99 time.

Which would mean removing a current function because it doesn't belong. Then permanently putting it back later when it should be (late in Velious).

Is that accurate?

Yes, that's the only way I see to interpret it.

-Feature doesn't currently exist.
-Feature should exist.
-Feature has code support now, possibly needing tweaks for jump instantly interrupting (Which is correct, also being stunned by melee or spells should instantly interrupt spells)
-Feature should be turned off towards the end of Velious.

Uthgaard · #32 09-13-2010, 03:35 PM

Lets build jurassic park. BUT NO VELOCIRAPTORS! They're too OP. Find the paralells.

Back to the actual question posed, I recall there being some relation to the interruption of spells, and the ability to sit through long casting, and effectively perma-med. I recall a thread from the devs that discussed their disinterest in giving players a means to interrupt their casting, but the necessity of preventing the perma-med potential being greater than the "cost" of allowing players to interrupt their spells.

These are simply recollections, and may not be accurate. I state them with the hope that something here will jog someone's memory, and that not only will the discussion get back on track, but that more clues will arise fill in the gaps. I suspect the smoking gun will be found on an archived front-page discussion on a fansite that frequently summarized developer posts from the SOE boards. The tricky part is finding it, on an archive that will actually load.

**nilbog** · #33 09-13-2010, 03:38 PM

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Back to the actual question posed, I recall there being some relation to the interruption of spells, and the ability to sit through long casting, and effectively perma-med. I recall a thread from the devs that discussed their disinterest in giving players a means to interrupt their casting, but the necessity of preventing the perma-med potential being greater than the "cost" of allowing players to interrupt their spells.

I believe this applied to spells cast by items, e.g. deepwater helm. You could click the hat, sit down until the bar was almost done casting, then stand back up again and it would finish its cast.

I don't recall that working for spells cast from the bar though.

guineapig · #34 09-13-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe this applied to spells cast by items, e.g. deepwater helm. You could click the hat, sit down until the bar was almost done casting, then stand back up again and it would finish its cast.

I don't recall that working for spells cast from the bar though.

So in other words you simply sit to interrupt a spell (or jump) instead of duck? This fix doesn't seem like that big of a deal then. I can live with that.

**nilbog** · #35 09-13-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So in other words you simply sit to interrupt a spell (or jump) instead of duck? This fix doesn't seem like that big of a deal then. I can live with that.

No, I was saying spells cast by right clicking an item (example the kunark armors), allowed you to sit after clicking.

I don't recall being able to sit while casting a spell from my spellbar.

Jumping should interrupt, as far as I know.

Ridic · #36 09-13-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Virtuosos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ducking NOT interupting spells confuses me seeing as how every time i am trying to turn my homework into frogs and i duck, it immediately stops me from doing it

real life should thus follow EQ

id love to see you cast a spell while ducking and it NOT cancel it immediately!

Knee Pads.

Sarkhan · #37 09-15-2010, 05:37 AM

So pretty much ducking does not insta-interrupt anymore but that's okay because we can just use jump (use stamina) or sit (possibly get agro?) instead. . . is that correct?
If it is correct then I don't really see why people are complaining. If it is not correct, please correct me (without flaming, thx)

Striiker · #38 09-15-2010, 09:40 AM

I also wanted to point out something which I know was voiced by Nilbog in the past. The server is a work in progress. The goal has always been to get it as close to a classic server as possible. We are being allowed to use the server as it continues to evolve (or devolve?) to a classic server. The alternative would have been to leave the server closed for years until the work was as close to done as possible.
So, we all play on this freely provided server knowing that changes will happen. Some we dislike, some we like but they are all towards the same, clearly defined goal. To make the server a classic (as in 1999 era) server.
I don't mean to sound negative but if you don't like being "nerfed" due to adjustments, I'd suggest waiting a year or so until playing. This way (hopefully) most of the growing pains will be over. If you choose to play, there's nothing wrong with vocalizing dismay or disagreement over a change but it really needs to be done in a respectful, non-bitchy way.

Lagaidh · #39 09-15-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe this applied to spells cast by items, e.g. deepwater helm. You could click the hat, sit down until the bar was almost done casting, then stand back up again and it would finish its cast.

I don't recall that working for spells cast from the bar though.

This is how I remember it. I've been looking forward to doing it again with Kunark.

I've always been a dorf pally. I was in a DL group once with three Barb Shaman. They would cannibalize and I would "hat heal".

I always imagined a dwarf beating himself in the head while standing in the center of three barbarians who were chewing on their own arms.

Messianic · #40 09-16-2010, 08:49 AM

This:

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Originally Posted by Striiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't mean to sound negative but if you don't like being "nerfed" due to adjustments, I'd suggest waiting a year or so until playing. This way (hopefully) most of the growing pains will be over. If you choose to play, there's nothing wrong with vocalizing dismay or disagreement over a change but it really needs to be done in a respectful, non-bitchy way.