Fresh start or /movelog for blue rotation server?

[Doil_Boil]

Originally Posted by myriverse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perpetual restarts seems to make the whole experience pointless imo.

Also, if this is ever done, I can't see anything but a fresh restart being pointed.

Which scenario are you playing EQ in which it isn't pointless? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Doil_Boil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which scenario are you playing EQ in which it isn't pointless? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey now, some people judge the quality of their life based on their pixels.

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by Doil_Boil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which scenario are you playing EQ in which it isn't pointless? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The one where my instance continues at pretty much my own whim.

[Doil_Boil]

Originally Posted by myriverse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The one where my instance continues at pretty much my own whim.

I just figured we all played for the experience of the game. Or did you win the game already?

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Pan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good points, I think.

Also in play here is that the CS varied from server to server on live a great deal - depended on the personalities of the GMs (among other things). So it could be more than the server pop (individuals) in play there, too. But, in systems generally, if there's a niche (resources), that niche will be exploited in a way that benefits the most competitive.

Yes, but that doesn't mandate the pants-on-head cockblocking, leapfrogging, training, spying, stalling, & etc. that we've seen here. There were a number of live servers that were highly competitive yet had reasonable behavior by the top guilds. By reasonable I mean things like:
1. You don't fuck with another guild's attempt at a mob. If the mob was a big deal (Trak & Sev during Kunark are a couple obvious ones) it was always immediately engaged by another guild after a wipe, but the first guild on the scene with a legit raid force got their attempt.
2. You don't engage with inadequate force and stall/kite while the rest of your force gets its shit together. #1 doesn't work without this.
3. You don't train another guild's raid. No on purpose. Not "by accident". Not ever.
Once behavior like that was established as the norm on a server the server GM would typically enforce it on the rare occasions that some group started acting up. There'd be a lot of shit-talking during the run-up to an engagement on contested mobs, but actual douchebaggery was kept to a minimum by common consent. That didn't mean guilds wouldn't try to keep mobs spawning in their preferred time-slot, or make strong efforts to monopolize mobs that were bottlenecks to advanced content like Trak, but they'd seek to dominate by simply being better organized and more capaable at the game rather than by being unrepentant douchenozzles the way too damned many people are here.

[edit]And all of that was obvious to non-raiders observing. The racing and shit-talking and obsessive pixellust still turned a fair few off to the whole scene, but it was nothing at all like the raid scene on p99. This server's raid scene is very special in a very unpleasantly childish Lord of The Flies sort of way.[/edit]

[Magnar]

One big fix to the issues on the current blue server would be, if there is a fresh restart on a new server, for the devs to come up with a way that only two accounts can ever be 'flagged' to log on from a single IP exemption. This will prevent the inevitable string of leveling accounts to powerlevel, having ridiculous amounts of characters camped all over the place, cut down on undetected boxing, etc.

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, but that doesn't mandate the pants-on-head cockblocking, leapfrogging, training, spying, stalling, & etc. that we've seen here. There were a number of live servers that were highly competitive yet had reasonable behavior by the top guilds. By reasonable I mean things like:
1. You don't fuck with another guild's attempt at a mob. If the mob was a big deal (Trak & Sev during Kunark are a couple obvious ones) it was always immediately engaged by another guild after a wipe, but the first guild on the scene with a legit raid force got their attempt.
2. You don't engage with inadequate force and stall/kite while the rest of your force gets its shit together. #1 doesn't work without this.
3. You don't train another guild's raid. No on purpose. Not "by accident". Not ever.
Once behavior like that was established as the norm on a server the server GM would typically enforce it on the rare occasions that some group started acting up. There'd be a lot of shit-talking during the run-up to an engagement on contested mobs, but actual douchebaggery was kept to a minimum by common consent. That didn't mean guilds wouldn't try to keep mobs spawning in their preferred time-slot, or make strong efforts to monopolize mobs that were bottlenecks to advanced content like Trak, but they'd seek to dominate by simply being better organized and more capaable at the game rather than by being unrepentant douchenozzles the way too damned many people are here.

[edit]And all of that was obvious to non-raiders observing. The racing and shit-talking and obsessive pixellust still turned a fair few off to the whole scene, but it was nothing at all like the raid scene on p99. This server's raid scene is very special in a very unpleasantly childish Lord of The Flies sort of way.[/edit]

From my short time here, it seems that some of the people on this server are so serious about their pixels, it's almost disturbing, that someone could be obsessed with equipment on a private server of a 15 year old game that almost nobody plays anymore, over things like working a job, paying rent, taking care of a family, etc.

I'm gonna pull a quote from Phil Hellmuth when he was at the WSOP in 2008: To you it's Poker man, to me this is my LIFE.

[Ele]

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[Ele]

Originally Posted by Magnar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One big fix to the issues on the current blue server would be, if there is a fresh restart on a new server, for the devs to come up with a way that only two accounts can ever be 'flagged' to log on from a single IP exemption. This will prevent the inevitable string of leveling accounts to powerlevel, having ridiculous amounts of characters camped all over the place, cut down on undetected boxing, etc.

Unless you play from a static IP address, your IP address will change each time you reset your cable modem. It will also change each time you log in from a different location or wifi network.

You could possibly flag accounts by machine and lock accounts to a single machine until people request to play from a new/different machine for the single account, but that creates a huge amount of work for CSR. It would cut way down on the number of shared accounts/trackers.

Limited password resets would also help cut down on account sharing. The risk of sharing your account with someone that gives out the password that you can only change a few times should cause apprehension in people before they pass it out.


The exorbitant amount of accounts is a symptom of no monthly fees. While I am sure some people more than happily throw down $200 a month to keep their 15 accounts active, a lot of people would have consolidated their alts into a single account instead of making new accounts for each new character. All these extra floating characters would have just faded away instead of being turned into inherited/shared guild accounts.