Late game Min/maxing class race list

[Whirled]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whoever mentioned shaman: Ogre 100%. Stun immunity can be huge when trying to get off a spell with several mobs on you. If you're the kind of person to root rot a mob at a time regen may be more useful, if you're a a swat team motherfucker and kicking down doors and shit Ogre all the way.

I duo'ed a Wizard with an Ogre Shaman & if we ever had too much agro, he'd back into a corner, take agro & we'd gate. The legends are true about those big corridor blockers.

[Bohab]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this is about min/maxing.

I get that but I'm just saying when it comes to warrior it's not that big of a deal what so ever compared to an ogre shaman getting it. I don't see it as a tank attribute that should force a player to choose ogre. I've duo'd with plenty of shamans of all races and ogre gets those slows/roots off while some tanking mobs easy. eat my ass pal

[Lunababy]

When it comes to Shaman there is no best. They all offer something:

Barbarian - Good faction
Ogre - Stun immunity
Troll - Evil faction + regen
Iksar - Regen + A/C + Solo faction

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Lunababy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When it comes to Shaman there is no best. They all offer something:

Barbarian - Good faction
Ogre - Stun immunity
Troll - Evil faction + regen
Iksar - Regen + A/C + Solo faction

i gotta disagree from a min/maxing pov ogre still wins. Torper grabs innate regen and throws it out the window. faction doesnt help the shaman class in anyway, its just a convenience. ac not as good as everyone says, at least not on here. frontal stun immunity is one of the best racial traits there is. hide/sneak is up there as well. anyways if you had BiS 60 shaman of each race lined up against the wall, id argue the ogre would be king in both pve and pvp.

just to put this out there, i hate min/maxing. im just answering the OP. i have iksar shaman, gnome necros, dark elf warriors, and a bunch of other shit that i just enjoy. play what you like but dont kid yourself when it comes to simple min/maxing question. no need to get defensive about common sense.

[trist4n]

I've always been curious if I should reroll my monk because he is human. The hp regen would be pretty amazing, and the AC bonus goes without saying. I just hated the idea of being KOS everywhere. That just seemed like a game mechanic that I did not want to deal with.

[Ravager]

Druid: Elf Tunare if http://wiki.project1999.com/Warden_Symbol_of_Tunare ever makes its way into the game.

Also, the cultural chainmail is neat.

[fuark]

Originally Posted by trist4n [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've always been curious if I should reroll my monk because he is human. The hp regen would be pretty amazing, and the AC bonus goes without saying. I just hated the idea of being KOS everywhere. That just seemed like a game mechanic that I did not want to deal with.

Iksar monk is better, but does it honestly matter? Play whatever you think is coolest, it's not too big of a deal. As long as you have a fungi, your hp will regen while FDed.

I have a DE necro because I think they are way cooler than Iksars. Are Iksars better? Way better. But did it ever hinder my necro? Not really.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by trist4n [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've always been curious if I should reroll my monk because he is human. The hp regen would be pretty amazing, and the AC bonus goes without saying. I just hated the idea of being KOS everywhere. That just seemed like a game mechanic that I did not want to deal with.

I played an Iksar to level 50 then changed because Iksars look stupid as hell.

[Nuktari]

Troll Wizard,

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[captain]

best race for each class was in terms of very late game raiding

A lot of people in this thread are forgetting the original question when replying about what is best. He asked for a specific situation and most of the replies have been about how a certain race is better in general and not for end game raiding.

Warrior, Shaman, SK - Ogre. Frontal Stun Immunity and Slam, can't beat those two combined abilities for raids.

Paladin - Dwarf. Higher Stamina(HP's), some extra innate resists and their racial armor is surprisingly amazing even late game Kunark. Erudite's are a worthy mention because of the extra unique gear. I would say it's a toss up come Velious.

Bard - Half Elf. For the extra Dex for when using epic.

Rogue - Barbarian for now since it's easier to cap stats in Kunark, come Velious it probably won't make a big difference.

Monk - Human. This is very situational and I would say that the slight edge human's have is that if everything goes right during a pull and raid mob set up they will add to the raid force as DPS and they beat Iksar in that category.

Wizard, Magician - Erudite. More INT for more PEWPEW simple.

Enchanter - High Elf. Only for the scenario that when fighting a raid mob in resist gear and the off chance that they need to charm/mez mobs they have higher CHA.

Ranger - Half Elf. Higher Dex to help Epic proc and in Velious can worship Tunare for sweet gear.

Druid - Halfling. Sneak hands down OP racial ability, I would like to see any other race get past two drakes without training. Come velious Wood Elf for Tunare armor maybe...

Necro - Iksar. Better regen which helps feed clerics.

Cleric - High Elf for stats Halfling for situational. Sure high elfs cap out stats easily but wisdom is easy to come by and Velious will make it even easier. But once again being able to sneak past two drakes(who knows what else come Velious) to solo CR a failed pull team deep in the dungeon is pretty damn good.