The problem with a "zerg" guild, and the challenge before us

[Zalaerian]

Time will tell but I assume history will repeat itself. The top progressing will always be on the offensive to kill raid targets. The other will try to stop them but at the cost of using their time the essentially play defense. Doing so they will be faced with decisions of 1) do we stop top guild from getting pixels for a few hours or 2) use that time to raid unharrased themselves. Dragons will die to the top guild, that is inevitable. It just whether it will be at prime time or 2am. The more the other guilds play defense, the more they fall behind the gearing game. The more they raid other other targets for gear, the faster the other guild gears.

Pick your poison

[Grizzler]

Well from a new players perspective, based on everything said here and in other posts, mine included, it really seems like a new player has 2 options. Either join one of the smaller guilds, get some loot content but have to claw, dig and fight hard as hell for it OR join holo and get free pixels (as long as requirements r met of course).

I can kinda see why some folks may just do the latter out of ease. However I would have to say that it is disconcerting that some of these smaller guilds won't or can't find even ground to either merge into 1 guild or at least make an alliance to try and compete for those other high value targets.

When it comes to myself, I'm some what of a masochist (christ, I play EQ) so I would probably still look for a smaller guild to attempt to combat the perceived "zerg" guild but I really can't help but say that all the guilds are perpetuating the server stigma.

As long as the smaller guilds keep holding onto their "ego's" and not working together to combat the larger guild, they can't blame anyone but themselves if they don't see content. If you can't put out the same amount of players or kill the targets, than you have no reason to have a "ego" in the first place. You have 2 options either out recruit or merge with someone else. Since the pop isn't the highest on red I would wager that recruitment isn't going to be your bread and butter but I'm a new guy, so what do I know. So that leaves the first option, if that's off the table than you might as well stfu cause your being your own Achilles heal. (see what I did there?)

Originally Posted by Slowride [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am pretty stoked about uthguard.. DAOC is one game I never got to try.

Glad I'm not the only one, wish we had a date.

[heartbrand]

Merges will never happen. Lite plays this game for the sole purpose of being an EverQuest guild leader. Max is a psycopath who hates lite. Friends will never merge with anyone. The history of this server since inception has been one large PVE guild and multiple smaller guilds who would rather PVP one another and grief each other than team up to fight the big dog. The sooner you accept that the sooner you'll be at peace with red99.

[Zalaerian]

Pretty much what The Slayer said

[dis_mornin]

EQ PvP isn't a game that allows sustainable competition. Especially on a small pop server like red99 where everyone knows everyone. If you are looking for 2 big guilds going at it for months on end you won't get it. So I am not even sure why you nerds waste your time theory crafting it. Even if all the competition teamed up to take on holo.. in 2-3 weeks there will be a winner and a loser and competition will go away. It has happened time and time again on this box and actually confirms to me you all are insane when you expect something different.

Also teams server is the worst idea and will flop.

[Coffee]

discussing guild sizes for raid progression on a pvp server

recruit and contest

pras fresh pras curse

[Rednaros]

If nobody is willing to put their shit aside and work together....stop bitching about losing.

[Slathar]

i will never ever contest or pvp in a meaningful way id much rather camp fingerbone hoops or chain kill level 12s until they quit the server



*gets in prius and inhales fart*

[snufzaimoverlord]

Welcome to Everquest.

[Genedin]

Quoting myself from 3/17.

"This has always been and always will be the reason that there is one dominant zerg on this server and while there will always be posts like this.

People think any of this shit actually matters and for too many individuals P99 is the main source of friendships and socializing in their lives so grudges, bad blood, etc are real life shit to them.

Combine the reasoning in the sentence above with the reasons that cause this situation in the first place (social disorders) of said individuals and you have an infinite loop.

Sorry pal, but if this server was made up of cool and normal people that wanted to play a pvp server for pvp instead of amassing pixels for no real reason, then it would already have happened. This is not the case and it will never happen."