Least Played Race/Class combos

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Deckk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I should ask this, too, and I'll combine it with my earlier question:

1) Would choosing Rallos Zek as a "good" race make me KoS in Faydark?

It should make you KOS in Kaladim (and maybe with certain guards in Butcherblock) without a bit of faction work. It did not do so when I made my WoodElf Rallos Warrior a couple years back (was indifferent iirc), but they have fixed a lot of faction stuff since then so it may do so now. Neither flavor of elves will be KOS and the affected dwarves are easy enough to avoid and/or fix.

[jpetrick]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know of one high end gnome warrior and they don't seem to log in much. Definitely the least played warrior race.

Iksar warriors used to be pretty rare - and I knew all of them. There is quite a few running around now. Swage and I are the best though, obviously.

Sartok will give you both a run for your money.

[Khoram]

barbarian shaman are rare? I see quite a few low level ones anyway. In vanilla live there were tons. So people only min/max here now for regen (iksar/troll) or stun immunity (ogre)?

My guild in live back in 99 had a wood elf warrior. Yeah, we never got very far.

I had a human druid and a DE SK. Human druid pretty classy looking in leather, and DESK was best plate look in game in vanilla imo. There were quite a few DESKs back in the day, as well.

[Deckk]

Personally, I don't get the desire to min/max. The majority of us will never see the top end content. And even if you do, you'll get enough gear to really offset the racial choice in the end.

It makes things not as easy, sure, or it streamlines gear choices, but it's not end all/be all.

I tried an ogre warrior and hated it. Went iksar and liked it, but being kos everywhere stinks. I'm gnome now and having a ton of fun AND finding it easier to get groups. Play what you like. Seriously. If the min/max races are what you like, you're in luck. If they aren't, oh well.

[Kutsumo]

Originally Posted by Khoram [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

barbarian shaman are rare? I see quite a few low level ones anyway. In vanilla live there were tons. So people only min/max here now for regen (iksar/troll) or stun immunity (ogre)?

My guild in live back in 99 had a wood elf warrior. Yeah, we never got very far.

I had a human druid and a DE SK. Human druid pretty classy looking in leather, and DESK was best plate look in game in vanilla imo. There were quite a few DESKs back in the day, as well.

There are lots of non-optimal race warriors in top guilds. Barb (Argh), wood elf (Tenderizer), halfling (Willfight) just to name a few... They do just fine.

I guess I'd say Human anything, other than maybe Ranger/Rogue who are more often Humans than most classes. Especially something like Human Mage or Wizard would be rare.

[Daldaen]

Half Elf Druid
Half Elf Warrior

I have both, we are unique snowflakes in a sea of Wood Elf Druids and Ogre Warriors.

[Khoram]

Agreed. I never made it to cap in original, I'll never be raiding in P99. EQ for me has always been more about the journey and the people. In a recent thread, people were advising race selection for a class based on how a single item looked that came from Veeshan's Peak. Maybe they were joking, I'm not sure. But holy crap lol I would never even have a chance at seeing an item like that, certainly not going to factor into my starting choices.

[dafier]

I played a Woodelf Warrior on Live. I don't recall seeing one, other than beginning levels. I ended up getting him to lvl 46 and was running through DreadLands at the time when Gorenaire attacked me. I lasted about 25 seconds without heals. I believe I was buffed too.

At any rate, I believe that was crazy that I lasted so long....

- Woodelf Warrior

[Kutsumo]

Originally Posted by Deckk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Personally, I don't get the desire to min/max. The majority of us will never see the top end content. And even if you do, you'll get enough gear to really offset the racial choice in the end.

It makes things not as easy, sure, or it streamlines gear choices, but it's not end all/be all.

I tried an ogre warrior and hated it. Went iksar and liked it, but being kos everywhere stinks. I'm gnome now and having a ton of fun AND finding it easier to get groups. Play what you like. Seriously. If the min/max races are what you like, you're in luck. If they aren't, oh well.

Well, it's usually the top end content that has the ability to equalize (to some degree) a non min/maxed race choice since there are stat caps.

Ogre vs <80str/sta race on a war is very noticeable, especially when undergeared. You're right though that some people will hate it due to size/graphics/etc. Just depends on whether the tradeoff in performance is worth it to you.

[Deckk]

Originally Posted by Kutsumo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, it's usually the top end content that has the ability to equalize (to some degree) a non min/maxed race choice since there are stat caps.

Ogre vs <80str/sta race on a war is very noticeable, especially when undergeared. You're right though that some people will hate it due to size/graphics/etc. Just depends on whether the tradeoff in performance is worth it to you.

Somewhat disagree with first paragraph, totally agree with second.

Here's why I disagree: This server has been in kunark so long that you can get REALLY good gear in EC and minimize the stat disadvantages. Plus, skill DOES account for something. Sure, an equally skilled and geared Ogre/Troll/Ikky Warrior and DE/gnome/wood elf warrior are going to have a noticeable difference among them. But a meh ogre/troll/ikky is not going to be as desirable as a GOOD warrior of whatever race.

Personally, I think if you learn your class you can overcome the stat differences. Sure, life may be a little bit tougher, but 1) the lack of an xp penalty helps ease that burden (though with warrior it's not bad even with the large races) and 2) it's not too hard to overcome (in consideration with the p99 economy, of course).