Necro, how do you not choose Iksar?

[Ando]

Originally Posted by Beinen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do like the theory that "necromancy is evil and if you're going to be evil class might as well go full evil like iksar" theory. But sometimes getting back to cab is a struggle.

At lvl 34 and on, your skellie illusion lich spells allow you to bank/sell in almost any evil city.

[Beinen]

Originally Posted by Ando [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At lvl 34 and on, your skellie illusion lich spells allow you to bank/sell in almost any evil city.

What about good cities?

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Beinen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about good cities?

Almost every bank you can use by hidding behind a wall, getting into a 3rd person view and right clicking on a banker. Even if you're KoS to them.

The only annoyance I had on Iksar Necro was going back to train pre-34 (Call of Bones lets you train in I think all Necro guild's). And you really only have to train up to level 22 and then research every 10 levels or so. Banking wasn't typically an issue. Selling you can always use Druid ring vendors and gypsies (usually close to a Necro sell location) or Call of Bones when high enough.

OT vendors being greedy is really annoying though. Being able to buy reagent from them at a reasonable price would be fantastic.

[Teppler]

I don't really see regeneration on necro as a big deal at all. A good necro is constantly active making use of their life taps.

[Beinen]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't really see regeneration on necro as a big deal at all. A good necro is constantly active making use of their life taps.

Right, I guess at top levels over 60 seconds(10 ticks) the extra hp regen would prolly only be about 1 tick of a life tap over time spell I'd imagine. So iksars require 1 less tick of a life tap dot per minute. Idk as I'm not a high end necro, this only assumption. But if this is true it doesn't seem to be a big deal after all.

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Beinen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right, I guess at top levels over 60 seconds(10 ticks) the extra hp regen would prolly only be about 1 tick of a life tap over time spell I'd imagine. So iksars require 1 less tick of a life tap dot per minute. Idk as I'm not a high end necro, this only assumption. But if this is true it doesn't seem to be a big deal after all.

If you're soloing and getting the most out of your necro (aka charming) you need to do stuff to finish off mobs anyway so why not use a life tap? I do think the regeneration tends to look better on paper then it actually is in practice.

[pharmakos]

lifetaps are not mana efficient as far as the amount of damage you're doing to a mob, though. mana you're spending on lifetaps is mana that you're not spending on pure-damage DOTs.

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by pharmakos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lifetaps are not mana efficient as far as the amount of damage you're doing to a mob, though. mana you're spending on lifetaps is mana that you're not spending on pure-damage DOTs.

There's a lot of complexities. Often times your pure damage DOTs are overkills. Sometimes you want to do a bit of damage and quick. Something like Deflux is a great tool. It's a fast cast and the damage per mana is comparable to other DDs although falls behind just a bit. Other times pyro and vexing mordiana will both kill so it doesn't really matter which one you use.

Sometimes you will want to be using the pure damage DOTs and not want to waste time with the life taps but I guess my overall point is that it doesn't come up as much as people might think when looking at this stuff on paper.

[fishingme]

I have to add another thing after reading through some comments. The only people who are insulting iksar necros clearly have pent up iksar necro envy. The majority of the best necros I have met on this server are iksars. The difference were talking about here is a warrior with a fungi tunic(iksar necro) or a warrior without a fungi(darkelf necro). Of course you can get the job done without being an iksar but the difference between iksar and any other necro race is an iksar can solo 2 to 3 times more than that of a non-iksar.

[pharmakos]

having played both an erudite necromancer and an iksar necromancer (pulled a sesserdrix =p) there is definitely a noticeable difference

i like to min/max, though. play whatever you'd like.