Shaman race poll

[Zill]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

@Zill - Velious is out,. resist gear is here.
Edit: There are far more resistance gear options then there were in the kunark era. Any negative racial related stat or resistance doesn't much matter at level 60 with end game gear.

If you're going to roll a Troll and equip him with Velious armor right off the bat then kudos to you - otherwise getting to that point at 60 is pretty damn lame.

People bitch about races that start with less than 75 agility; if you ask me starting with -20 FR is waaaay worse. Like congrats on that Regen bud you're really gonna need it after every caster NPC you bump into.

[Semmysosa]

How does the ogre stun ability work on Red?
Can you not duck as an ogre?
I am thinking Troll but with the negative fr lots of classes could eat you up.

[Pyrocat]

Originally Posted by Zill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People bitch about races that start with less than 75 agility; if you ask me starting with -20 FR is waaaay worse. Like congrats on that Regen bud you're really gonna need it after every caster NPC you bump into.

You don't actually fight that many caster NPCs as you level up, let alone ones with fire nukes, let alone ones where you'll just be standing there getting nuked instead of the tank / LoSing it.

I'm happy to see Trolls have the most satisfaction and Barbarian's the least. All is as it should be.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Pyrocat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't actually fight that many caster NPCs as you level up, let alone ones with fire nukes, let alone ones where you'll just be standing there getting nuked instead of the tank / LoSing it.

hah this is true! The devs collected all such mobs out of starting zones just before beta and dropped them all into nek forest into big clumps so to annihilate newbie dark elves [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Shammies can breath a sigh of relief of course.

[Kevynne]

Barb is the easiest shm race, Iksar and Troll are prefered for the regen. No clue why people play ogre shaman.

[Semmysosa]

Found this.

Posted by iruinedyohrday

So, I wanted to share some advice, if you do decide to roll a shaman. First why not roll a shaman? Shamans set themselves up for disaster on red99. What I mean by that is, a shaman doing his thing at its best, is the easiest target for another player to get a YT.

Shamans kill things slowly, and they kill a lot of things at once. So if you are farming, you likely will have many things rooted and slowly dotting themselves to death. Think about how difficult a pvp engagement is going to be when you add 4 or 6 angry mobs breaking root, perma-agroed on you. Now think about that same pvp engagement that starts with you at about 40 or 50% health, because you're using the shamans ability to turn HPs into Mana... not very promising. These reasons are why shaman doing his job at its best, is setting himself up for disaster.

Now, if you do chose to roll a shaman, there's a funny thing about Race selection on red. Dont pick an ogre. Ogre on red is the worst of the shamans. This is because of a few reasons, but most importantly frontal stun immunity is basically worthless on a server, that doesn't allow duck casting. When you have 3 mobs on you, all bashing, you WILL get interrupted. On blue that's fine, you duck out of the cast and re cast, avoiding the 3-4 second frozen stun moment as an ogre (which make you feel invincible on blue) and getting right back into action. But on red, you cant interrupt that spell cast, you'll know your spell is going to get interrupted, but you cant stop it, and it was an epic click and now you have to wait 11 seconds to see that fantastic message, your spell has been interrupted. That said, if you were a class that was not immune to frontal stun, your spell timer bar would disappear on a bash, you'd get stuck, frozen in place for 3 seconds, and then be back casting a fresh, non interrupted version of the same spell. 11 Seconds > 3 Seconds and what you want is less time wasted, not more. The inability to break a cast, makes frontal stun a hindrance more than a boon on red.

Another thing to consider is regen on red is far more important than it is on blue... you wont find yourself kiting a mob around for a minuet or two to get more HP regen in, but you will find yourself doing that in pvp. So I personally suggest Iksar. The reason I suggest iksar over troll, is size also matters on red. A big shaman is an easy target in group pvp, or for a ganker, so if you are smaller, its a little easier for you to be unnoticed.. also it just feels so god damned easy to hit an ogre or a troll with melee attacks, its easier for a iksar to duck and weave.

tl;dr - dont make a shaman unless you know for a fact you can overcome the pain and you want to RP as one - dont make an Ogre cus frontal stun on red is null & void, make an iksar cus regen/size matters.

Hope this helps!
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So it seems Barb for faction or Troll for regen due to slam being a must in PvP.

[iruinedyourday]

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[Pyrocat]

Originally Posted by Kevynne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Barb is the easiest shm race, Iksar and Troll are prefered for the regen. No clue why people play ogre shaman.

Only thing barb has going for them is slightly higher starting wisdom, slightly less exp penalty, and nonkos to good races. Weigh that against lack of regen, stamina, infraviaion, good looks, and regen. In a cannibalizing world, the man with regen is king. Less downtime > slightly more exp needed to level.

As far as faction goes, my troll is non-kos in NFreeport, Paineel, Grobb, Cabils, Ogguk, Neriak, OT, and probably a few more I'm forgetting. Faction isn't an issue and as a bonus you can slaughter guards in cities you're kos in without worry.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by Pyrocat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as faction goes, my troll is non-kos in NFreeport, Paineel, Grobb, Cabils, Ogguk, Neriak, OT, and probably a few more I'm forgetting. Faction isn't an issue and as a bonus you can slaughter guards in cities you're kos in without worry.

Yeah faction is really overrated. My ogre shadowknight is non-kos in all of Freeport, Firiona Vie, Neriak, Grobb, Oggok, Paineel, Highkeep, Highpass Hold, Qeynos Hills, a lot of North Qeynos, Rivervale, druid circles, etc. etc. It's just not that big of a deal. If you want to work on it some, you can undo Norrath's inherent racism. (Except with dwarves, just eat those guys)

[Kevynne]

Originally Posted by Pyrocat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only thing barb has going for them is slightly higher starting wisdom, slightly less exp penalty, and nonkos to good races. Weigh that against lack of regen, stamina, infraviaion, good looks, and regen. In a cannibalizing world, the man with regen is king. Less downtime > slightly more exp needed to level.

As far as faction goes, my troll is non-kos in NFreeport, Paineel, Grobb, Cabils, Ogguk, Neriak, OT, and probably a few more I'm forgetting. Faction isn't an issue and as a bonus you can slaughter guards in cities you're kos in without worry.

all there spells are in one place too, barb is eziest