Tell me why Red sucks

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't join zergs then.

friends somehow is hard to get into, can't deny they very clique

so is empires core but at least they tag people

heck i offered to join friends just for pvp and fun, never even got a reply. I find that funny as a neutral reputation shm that likes to support

never did shit to you guys so whatever right, lets just not pretend they are trying to grow into a competitor

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by derpcake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

friends somehow is hard to get into, can't deny they very clique

so is empires core but at least they tag people

heck i offered to join friends just for pvp and fun, never even got a reply. I find that funny as a neutral reputation shm that likes to support

never did shit to you guys so whatever right, lets just not pretend they are trying to grow into a competitor

Dunno I'm not friends.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dig pvp, but hardly if ever play FFA, not even in the 90's on Quake servers. I generally go with faction pvp, or at least team based pvp like in CTF mode etc. I've spent tons of time in PSide1, the SWG GCW, WWII Online, EVE factional warfare, GW1 tournaments, GW2 WvWvW, Classic UO where we did red vs blue and then later this huge pvp/rp alliance warfare thang. Not even counting all my shooters etc. Really? EQ1 FFA? meh...

My experience with FFA, usually not very good communities. Too much anger and hostility.

its not FFA since people have guild tags and respect those pretty much always

[brecon]

Originally Posted by derpcake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its not FFA since people have guild tags and respect those pretty much always

?

[derpcake]

@sam

makes 2 of us

[jcr4990]

Biggest reason Red sucks is just cause the population sucks. If the server had enough people to support like 3-4 Empire's instead of 1 it would be infinitely more enjoyable. An avg nightly pop of like 600 people would make Red amazing. Unfortunately that will never happen cause the vast majority of people that try Red get frustrated by the degenerates with ~300k geared twinks sitting in lvl 5-50 dungeons ruining everyones day all day long. If you manage to get past that into your 50's then your options become either join Empire or get crushed/raid meaningless shit to avoid getting crushed. That's another one of the huge issues is that 1 guild basically controls everything through zerg tactics. If Empire was forced to split into 2 separate guilds somehow and the rest of the server just picked sides it would automatically be better than it is now. I used to think "Why the hell are ppl so excited about stupid "Teams PvP" server when we already have Red that blows ass? But then it all made sense when I stopped to think about it. A Teams server kind of discourages a single zerg guild at the top. Much higher probability of there being multiple high end guilds when the mechanics of the game force people to not pile into 1 zerg.

Red has potential to be a great thing but human scumbag nature seems to repeatedly get in the way.

[fan D]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Biggest reason Red sucks is just cause the population sucks. If the server had enough people to support like 3-4 Empire's instead of 1 it would be infinitely more enjoyable. An avg nightly pop of like 600 people would make Red amazing. Unfortunately that will never happen cause the vast majority of people that try Red get frustrated by the degenerates with ~300k geared twinks sitting in lvl 5-50 dungeons ruining everyones day all day long. If you manage to get past that into your 50's then your options become either join Empire or get crushed/raid meaningless shit to avoid getting crushed. That's another one of the huge issues is that 1 guild basically controls everything through zerg tactics. If Empire was forced to split into 2 separate guilds somehow and the rest of the server just picked sides it would automatically be better than it is now. I used to think "Why the hell are ppl so excited about stupid "Teams PvP" server when we already have Red that blows ass? But then it all made sense when I stopped to think about it. A Teams server kind of discourages a single zerg guild at the top. Much higher probability of there being multiple high end guilds when the mechanics of the game force people to not pile into 1 zerg.

Red has potential to be a great thing but human scumbag nature seems to repeatedly get in the way.

or when 1 side establishes a dominant guild that is superior to any on the opposing team, everyone joins that side. Eventually no one plays on the losing teams faction and all of those races/classes become non existent

[fan D]

Originally Posted by coldslaw [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When the PVP general forum is more toxic than the Blue RnF, you're not really enticing people to give it a try.

Not to mention the red recruitment posts in almost every single thread which is annoying and a turn-off to wanting to associate more with individuals like that.

From a newer players perspective, red server a) appears toxic as fuck b) seems to ahve a declining population. Whats the point of investing time there?

because even if both of those are true - it's still better than blue

[fan D]

i always thought it was funny that someone like me, who plays 20 hours a day for the past 2 years, has hardly ran into twinks/griefers on red. There was on in crushbone, one, and he hasnt been around in over a year. The griefers in unrest, mistmoore, highkeep, you seem them online maybe twenty minutes a week. You don't see those players on for hours on end, and there are no twink griefers past lvl 30 or so. That is the highest level theyll go, there is no one 40-50 that sits in solb and ruins peoples night as their sole goal in eq

[Jauna]

So we are all at a consensus then?

Remove the ability to kill another player on Red99 and keep the added experience.

But, one day a month PvP is enabled but have a 1 hour respawn time on every raid target