NToV harder than VP ?

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by ruidian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How about making train pulls against the rules? If one did on live what people do here, it would be a suspension or ban. You couldn't train ntov to wtov and drag a dragon to the zone in. It's called zone disruption. And it didn't matter if you said "hey look out we're intentionally training a zillion mobs." You're intentionally training at that point, that's a suspension/ban.

Then you have to have a CS watching things, and deal with long explanations and arguments, and etc. They don't want to do that, and I don't blame them.

[maskedmelon]

Just make NToV like gum with a 28 minute respawn timer, but add phs and decrease chance of named to 1%

Could accommodate a dozen guilds at once :3

[Erati]

Mario Kart has turtle shells you throw at your opponents - p99 racing is lacking fun features such as this [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mario Kart has turtle shells you throw at your opponents - p99 racing is lacking fun features such as this [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This guy used to be a pretty good turtle shell.

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[Raev]

I just don't understand how anyone can possibly enjoy staring at the screen for 16 hours waiting for something to happen. And I don't think anyone really does; racers are simply addicted to the dopamine of yellow text, status within the guild, and increased pixels.

And yeah, no CSR VP was a lot more interesting than the current setup. It would be fun to try no CSR NTOV for a week; I'd be curious to see what happens.

[fadetree]

So...this is why instancing got invented.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So...this is why instancing got invented.

PvP is a much better solution.

Or if you have instancing, at least do it in such a way that the raid target itself is not instanced and there is competition with a PvE qualifier activity. When a raid mob spawns, teleport each guild who is present to some kind of instanced fight (with a capped number of players on each team). Whoever wins it the fastest is given a window to kill the raid target. If they fail, then the raid target becomes open to everyone (after healing back to the full health).

[maskedmelon]

Can always change to 48hr respawn and 7-9day lockouts on all raid targets.

[Raev]

PVP is a pretty mediocre solution, because EQ mechanics don't support PVP very well and in any case it's just about the biggest zerg.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PVP is a pretty mediocre solution, because EQ mechanics don't support PVP very well and in any case it's just about the biggest zerg.

Have structured PvP matches (24v24 perhaps) with set gear to determine who gets the rights to kill raid targets. Yeah the mechanics aren't great but it's ALWAYS going to be better than the normal trash game.