Best starting stats for a Wood Elf Ranger?

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Jontheripper [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

80hp is literally nothing at lvl 60.

Or it's the difference between dying or not, or the difference between getting low hp aggro or not. It's not crucial for every single fight, or even most fights, but leveling 1-60 it occurs often enough where if you were standing for one more swing you just might have killed the mob or you just might have got that heal that's about to land on your corpse and all of those situations add up to wasted time that could be avoided right from the start.

[Vallanor]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or it's the difference between dying or not, or the difference between getting low hp aggro or not. It's not crucial for every single fight, or even most fights, but leveling 1-60 it occurs often enough where if you were standing for one more swing you just might have killed the mob or you just might have got that heal that's about to land on your corpse and all of those situations add up to wasted time that could be avoided right from the start.

More DEX could be that one extra proc that finishes off the mob. More WIS could be that one extra root spell allowing you an easy escape when you get a couple adds. More STR could be extra damage throughout the fight that killed the mob faster and prevented the need for 40 extra HP at the end.

Overall I agree, from a min-max perspective, STA is probably the way to go just because it's more difficult to compensate for with gear, but I think it's really a pretty minor consideration at the end of the day. I did a piss-poor job creating my paladin (erudite to start and mostly STR at character creation) and I've never once felt bad about it. Most people won't even notice the difference.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stats don't matter in EQ.

Single greatest truth in thread ^^



OP, Choices are 80hp at level 60 and 0 benefit at level 1, or less headache and increased effectiveness your entire EQ career.

Solo, a larger hp pool is of limited value, because you are going to need to root and heal up anyway. Your mana pool determines how long you can last more than your hp pool.

Grouping, you may or may not (if grouped with any of the people suggesting stamina here) be tanking, but being closer to capping strength will allow you to prioritize resists in gear which are really what matters so that you don't eat a full ice comet, which that 80hp will have very little chance of saving you.

In raids, the only time you should be getting attacked is if you are weapon shielding (hp irrelevant, you are invuln) for tank swap after which you will die no matter, or you are being hit by ae magics. If you're not tanking, your job is killing and being closer to capping strength with fewer items allows prioritization of resists so you don't eat full nukes. Again 80hp is far less likely to save you.

The extra hp is a conditional benefit. The increased attack, damage, carrying capacity and flexibility to prioritize resists are constant benefits.

Warriors on the other hand only exist to tank raid mobs in defensive stance and receive 25 starting points and 6hp per sta. With defensive discipline that is effectively 300hp at level 60, which is far more relevant a consideration.

[brecon]

So....what most people are saying is 'we have opinions on our preferences.' There's no winner here, so do what you want. But the other interesting thing that people say is that it is also about gear choice.

I've personally found it harder to raise dex without sacrificing others stats. I find it relatively easy to add HP and Str in combination on gear, and I find it pretty easy to add to MR/CR/FR along with Wisdom. For someone who likes to solo, both while leveling and at 60 to farm stuff, I prioritize conserving HP. That means reliance on regen, procs, and bows. Which is why I wear lots of resist gear and prioritize dex for procs.

If you are an end-game raider that is min-maxing, then I don't know why you are rolling Ranger in the first place. Min-maxing a Ranger is a little like trying to be a main healer as a Paladin. But nonetheless, in that context, then you will assume that you always have lvl 60 shaman buffs (Str + Dex + Focus), which adds a ton of stats (though I find most shamans ignore me if I ask for dex+str+focus anyway and just give me focus). Also in many raid situations you won't want to use proc weapons to avoid pulling aggro. And you want to survive AE damage, since healing a ranger will never be a priority. In that case, and only that case, do I see a justification for stamina.

But if that was your mentality I sort of doubt you would be asking the P99 forums for stat allocation advice, and if you are untwinked, you are heavily gimping yourself until higher levels and better gear.

[paulgiamatti]

Well, my ranger began as a fairly overgeared alt which got hand-me-downs from my main rogue, and that turned into a full-scale twinking project - I probably wouldn't roll ranger as my very first character when starting on a new server, unless I was feeling particularly masochistic.

I'd say the primary reason I decided on ranger is tracking, and I'm pretty happy that I stuck with it for that reason alone. Also, it's just a fun class to play. If you gear yourself like a tank, and if you have plenty of HP, you can easily tank anything a shadow knight or paladin can, and ranger snap aggro is basically the best in the game.

[gkmarino]

Not ranger related but i put all points into strength and I'm still mad at how often I'm over encumbered. Not ranger related but imagine it as an evil race/deity who can't vendor everywhere. Also being my first char untwinked I carry pelts and weapons to sell and craft. I'm always finding a balance between value and weight. Not to mention wanted to train skill in all weapon types without WR bags. STR has payed off immensely. Even having 90 STR sucks a lot. I'm level 20 and just got my first item that has STR on it.

My armor and a few weapons and a shield puts my starting weight at around 55-60 and that's without plate armor.

[LordRayken]

Too late. I'm level 7 and already dumped my points into Stamina.

Dun dun dunnnn

[Pyrion]

If you intend to play the ranger so you can raid later, sure, sta may be the thing to do. But if you are not heavily twinked, i would consider putting all into str. Str is needed so you do more damage and dont have to sell things so often due to overload. Not putting your points into str can lead to too much frustration so you dont even get to high level.

Ignore all that if you have a good amount of twink gear, getting your str up that way.

[paulgiamatti]

Did anyone play the original F-Zero for SNES?

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I always chose the pink racer and annihilated my competition, because even though it had the lowest acceleration, it had the highest top speed. Meaning if you ran into a wall and came to a dead stop, you were pretty much screwed because it would take you longer to accelerate back to top speed again. But if you played well - if you were confident and knew the course well, and could make all the turns without clipping the walls - you were much more likely to take first place.

[maskedmelon]

That is the opposite though because sta only helps when you or your group is doing poorly. If you are extra careful you don't need any extra hp^^ High top speed and sta are both conditional benefits though, so there is consistency there ^.~v

I would choose the pink car too though, but only because it's pink ^^