Jaundiced Bone Bracer - to buy or not to buy?

[fadetree]

Yeah you can't argue with somebodies experience, it is what it is. I guess people just like the idea of a mana free nuke, and that's legit. But if you really look at it from a rigorous perspective, the JBB is meh in terms of opportunity cost and actual killing rate increase, whereas regen is a powerful increase, no matter how somebody feels about it.

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by EdTuBrutus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wondered if you didn't understand the game mechanics from previous posts and sadly this rambling post does tend to confirm that. I'm not even sure where to start addressing it, it sounds like the gish gashing from Trump. But, in the interest of trying to be helpful I'll try and address the main parts as far as they can be identified.

1. Pets hold agro because pet agro is bugged, its Not Classic but sure, use it if you want. It makes no overall difference to the mathematical inferiority of using a JBB.

2. Being able to kill something is not the same as being able to kill something effiently. You shouldn't be killing unitemised paladins. Like ever. Post Kunark, there is no reason to do guards at all unless factioning, they've got nearly twice the HP of other same level mobs, in general, and are always in zones with terrible ZEMs.

3. I've tried reading it three times now but its still not clear what argument you are trying to put forward for using the JBB. Is it because you like killing slowly or because you like downtime between slow kills? It just doesn't seem to make any sense.

No need for insults. He is just saying he used it in a specific circumstance, and it worked, and he liked it. Of note - he also had a fungi. The equation is different if you already have a fungi, then sure, a JBB is delicious icing. If the question is JBB *or* fungi/ikky bp, then regen wins hands down. If the question is JBB now and fungi later *or* neither until a fungi can be had, I personally would keep saving for a fungi, I'd hate to lose money trying to turn the JBB over.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah you can't argue with somebodies experience, it is what it is. I guess people just like the idea of a mana free nuke, and that's legit. But if you really look at it from a rigorous perspective, the JBB is meh in terms of opportunity cost and actual killing rate increase, whereas regen is a powerful increase, no matter how somebody feels about it.

I didn't mean to make it sound like the single most powerful instant clicky to ever be introduced to EQ1, but I personally found it fit my style of play.

My shaman is 55 lvl, and I feel that the bracer was still useful when I would solo. I still used canni, I still used my spells, etc.

I just found that I had very little down time when I used the JBB along with my pet, along with my dots, spells and canni.

I went from 49 iirc, to 55 by soloing off and on via guards. Anyway. Not to beat this horse to a pulp, but the JBB proved useful for me and how I liked to play.

[Lojik]

If you worship cazic thule, you can combine JBB with spook the dead clickie to fear kite. Works pretty well from 45-49 on specs and 49-52ish on spectral curates in TT. With manafree fear, pet, and manafree nuke killin is EZsauce.

[Lojik]

JBB is also useful soloing tough stuff at 60. Sometimes you get in situations where both mana and hp are fairly low while waiting for torpor to bring you back, so having an extra tool in ur belt is nice. Don't really think spamming it at 60 is very efficient though, at least if you have epic and bane.

[magicnubs]

Originally Posted by Vallanor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have nothing to add to this conversation except that shamans getting a cheapish, tradeable clicky nuke at such a low level despite having a multitude of other efficient ways to solo and group is just about the most obnoxious thing ever. Wizards do nothing but nuke yet have to wait until 60 and join a raid guild to get a chance at a comparable item. And here you are all talking about how useless the shaman clicky bracer is when a clicky robe is the single most useful item a wizard can get. The original EQ developers deserve a beating.

That's all. Carry on.

Agreed.

Sincerely,
a pre-Luclin Ranger main