I think what was funny about Greengrocer is he truly was a nice guy (we used to run the Plug.dj channel together), but once mad he flipped out permanently.
Initially it looked bad when Moregan was kicked, but I think we can all see why now. The guy went on to doxx people and make friends with a lot of people who got a kick out of damaging P99's reputation to try and wage a war.
Right around this time the forums were getting choked. Threads were getting deleted, moved and basically I didn't think it was right that people were having legit threads taken away. So that's where P99 Uncut came along. The notion of an unmoderated forum where you could post what you wanted without fear of deletion - an uncensored forum.
It took me a few weeks but I figured out this was a big mistake. Also there were 4-5 other subreddits made, including one made by a bunch of BDA (p99 circlejerk or something) who told me to shut my one down because their's was there first, followed by them asking to be a moderator on mine lol). JCR was big on hyping that subreddit long after mine was gone.
Then Grocer gets on his crusade and gets ahold of the staff skype logs which included personal info. I made the decision that this had gone too far. I was pissed that the forums were getting censored (thanks Sikorsky, overmoderation is what started it up up) but ultimately one man's quest to shut down P99 or make the founders walk away wasn't going to be on my watch. I didn't want to be his front man, I didn't want to know him at all from then on.
He begged and pleaded "Swish, reopen the subreddit" and some of the guys at Elfpals HQ were instructed to start hating in my direction. No thanks.
The bottom line is 1000s of people enjoy P99, and while not enough people enjoy the red server its really not about a few bad apples trying to stop people from having a good time. I backed away from it all, I got a lot of hate for it ironically.
Grocer went on to post on BDA's circlejerk subreddit instead so it didn't stop the bomb dropping but I wasn't going to be part of that anymore.
When I backed out and even wanted to leave the forums, thats when Llandris got hired. So the connection was always made that I must be Llandris because the timing was such a coincidence. It is just a coincidence. I still think he's an ex-Europa enchanter, but I guess we'll never know
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You'll often see an anon forum account pop up, hate on me and my posts, and then get banned. If you wonder who it is, it's a bitter Grocer who's still playing a 40 pop boxed server with no proper coder/developer. Sorry you lost your way old friend, doxxing people that have helped 1000s of people enjoy a classic game isn't cool.