<Auld Lang Syne> wants to raid?

[Jimjam]

There has been a number of occasions on this server where all the stars have aligned and desirable mobs have been left up to facilitate public raids in the past.

There was a Vox open raid, also a Plane of Hate raid which had a Maestro left up for them. There are more examples, but these are the two that jump to mind. My advice is search through the old threads to find the details of these events and contact the organiser.

Perhaps they can get advice on how they managed to negotiate these particular mobs being left uncontested.

Best of luck ALS.

[Sorn]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was a Vox open raid, also a Plane of Hate raid which had a Maestro left up for them. There are more examples, but these are the two that jump to mind. My advice is search through the old threads to find the details of these events and contact the organiser.

Both of these were hosted by Omni.

And Lhance, never underestimate the generosity of the p99 community. What ALS is asking here is definitely possible if they reach out to the right people.

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by teija [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If a new guild is looking to try these starter raid mobs Awakened would be happy to sit out a naggy or vox if others agreed to let them do it also. PM me OP if/when you talk to others and work out what week ya want to try it.

This is one of the tougher obstacles, Awakened, already showing they are willing to try to make this happen. I am certain they are not alone. And while I'm not an officer in my guild, if it comes up, I'll argue to let ALS have a shot. And I'd even be willing to come on my lock 52 bard to help you out if you need numbers when the time comes.

You should try to make this happen. It's possible and would be a whole lot of fun for you and your guild.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Sorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Both of these were hosted by Omni.

And Lhance, never underestimate the generosity of the p99 community. What ALS is asking here is definitely possible if they reach out to the right people.

I don't underestimate anything. I am just realistic and know how it is here, like you do. There's plenty of helpful individuals but typically the ones most helpful are not running the raid guilds.

We will see. When the time comes and they need certain raid mobs, let's see if CGS concedes and let's them raid the mid level raid mobs. Awakened already made it crystal clear they are fine with it.

I think the biggest problem will be with the mid tier guilds, the "casual raid" guilds tbh. Don't let their benign sounding advertisements of being "casual" fool you.

[tiadashi]

Originally Posted by Expediency [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're flat out wrong. So far in just three pages of this thread, you've had members from several raid guilds say that this is possible and workable. Awakened just posted that they'd work with ALS here, which is one of the top dominos he needs to fall.

You dont seem to understand what ALS is asking or how hard it is to accomplish. There is one naggy per week and everyone wants it. ALS wants to be left alone to contest it on their terms. This isnt an easy request and it requires the agreement of a lot of different parties. Even very small casual raiding guilds will have to agree to be hands off.

Do you have any actual advice for him or are you just going to continue to be critical? We're offering a roadmap to success and you're offering nothing but negativity.

Im not sure why you bother responding to mr Butthurt - once twice i get but this guy lives in it

[Naethyn]

The top tier guilds are actually super supportive of good reasons to see challenges like this take place. From a competitive viewpoint it would be very interesting to see a guild of non twink / economy guys to take a challenge like this on. What the top end doesn't look well on is giving things away for "free" to casuals who think they deserve it because they exist here. This is quite the opposite, and something I'd see easily gaining huge support. It's the guys who see this, and wonder why they don't get the same opportunity, by completely missing the challenge that is taking place. It is that crew who will want the same benefit and run the risk of it not happening. (aka. not the top end but the guys who want free pixels)

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by teija [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This was not a hard call to make considering Awakened does not actively track these 2 mobs and does not kill them 80-90% of the time. The middle-tier guilds are the ones who compete for these and kill them most of the time.

Fair point. I guess i meant it more along the lines of; once the top tier guilds are on board, it might be more likely that the rest will follow suit.

[Baa]

At <Infernus> we are only just getting to have the level of required alts to actively compete for Vox and Naggy.

We often have people attend raids as guest, and while this isn't official I think we certainly wouldn't mind having the occasional guest along to experience some of this content.

The difficulty is always going to be timings due to us playing offpeak.

[Sancta]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What the top end doesn't look well on is giving things away for "free" to casuals who think they deserve it because they exist here.

Exactly this. The top guilds are where they are because they contested mobs. They put the time in and get the reward. The top guilds don't have a sense of entitlement, most of their kills are highly contested, they have to work for it.

A great example of this is an up and coming guild called Infernus. One or two VS's ago they knew he was in window and did all the necessary steps to secure the kill. Their goal for that day to was to kill VS. They tracked it, parked the right classes there, got on when it popped and killed it while it was being contested by a top guild. It was late at night when he popped but they were dedicated to killing it themselves, and they did. Rome wasn't built in a day, set goals and achieve them.

It's good to see more than just the top 2 guilds actually contesting mobs, make things way more interesting. Minus a few really tough high end mobs there's always opportunity for any guild to kill practically any high end mob if they simply just make specific targets their goal. I see lots of these "casual raid guilds" attempt to go after every single high end mob at the same time as if they were A/A. Track a small number at a time, start small, learn the strats and park toons. That's the name of the game until the staff want to change any of the rules. But I assure you that whatever rules are in place, it will always take some time, dedication, and focus to kill contested (high end) mobs.

[bktroost]

I think supporting some attempts at naggy and vox are something we'd be interested in discussing.