The Omega Proposal

[Comoc1]

Originally Posted by Orloc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To the gentlemen who referenced "you casuals". I didn't know logging on every day - playing for 4-6 hours and all day on the weekend put me in this bucket. ( seems pretty hardcore in fact )

Bro if you put that much time in and choose not to raid that's on you. Seriously.

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stop being toxic (that goes for everyone involved in that raid scene mess).

Nothing toxic about my statement. Period.

[Swish]

Would you say you were complaining about the imbalance of how the staff are handling the 2 guilds competing petitions tough? Does that promote a healthier raid scene?

[kotton05]

Sirken for the love of god just make it the Wild West in ToV / vp

[Comoc1]

Swish, no complaints at all. If am or aw are suspended individually the other guild will dominate - that's where there is an imbalance. AM participated in the raid agreement the last time aw was suspended, but it's not guarnteed we'd do it again.

It's really a win win for everybody. The casuals get free reign for 2 cycles and am/aw are at parody because we're both suspended.

[Swish]

I think it's great that there's competition, nice that the 2 guilds will never merge, and stuff like that. Never been in either, never would as I just don't have the time to commit and enjoy it.

But really, this "eye for an eye" shit really isn't good for P99. At what point will both guilds be satisfied with justice AND not look to call the other out again? I get the feeling that shittyness resides in both camps, and until offending players/raid leaders/pullers/FTE'ers are suspended that this will go in circles for years potentially til everyone's had enough.

[skarlorn]

wow there are actually some sickos making well thought out replies to this thread

pokesan please weigh in on this

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by skarlorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wow there are actually some sickos making well thought out replies to this thread

pokesan please weigh in on this

no

here's this instead https://twitter.com/zeldawilliams/st...23854748508160

[Secrets]

If they get disbanded forcefully, what's stopping them from continuing without a guild tag?

And what's stopping them from joining other guilds and causing the same drama?

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they get disbanded forcefully, what's stopping them from continuing without a guild tag?

And what's stopping them from joining other guilds and causing the same drama?

perma ban the toons secrets

[temporalrift]

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they get disbanded forcefully, what's stopping them from continuing without a guild tag?

And what's stopping them from joining other guilds and causing the same drama?

A great question, which I considered and addressed in my original post:

Originally Posted by temporalrift [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...the additional stipulation that their guild leaders and officers be formally censored from forming, leading or organizing another guild on this server, with any attempts at 'shadow leadership' or the formation of 'unofficial' guilds resulting in additional disciplinary action, not limited to suspension or banning of characters and/or accounts...

Unfortunately, I am not familiar with what this entails, as such the stipulation is meaningless if it is impossible or even unfeasible to enforce, considering those who will be enforcing this stipulation are volunteers, their time will be limited, as is the resources of the administrators who provide us with great server. The concept addresses your concern nonetheless and would make those who are subject to the Omega Proposal weary of committing more violations for fear that they will lose their characters and or accounts. Basically the proposal aims at removing the authority of decision making from those who have proven that they are incapable of making decisions within the given ruleset and rather than merely banning them for their offenses, providing them with the opportunity to keep playing the game and enjoying it so long as they not attempt to grab the power which they have lost in deserving fashion.

Incidentally the power this proposal aims to depose may be the only thing these types of individuals enjoy about this game. If that is the case it means the server administrators believe that this type of gamer is a necessary part of the Classic EverQuest experience and having played and loved this era of EverQuest I see the validity of that point and I reticently agree that they may be right. If that is the mindset of the Administrators then please remove all the rules of this server and allow these types of individuals to thrive in the truly anarchistic environment they desire, do not give us constructs which are not enforced.