why is t-staff 50k now?

[Jimjam]

I've seen more Skeletal Warlords drop Velium Great Staffs than T-Staffs!

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Won't be long till your fingers are cut off for typing such blasphemy. Somehow deep down I think you're trolling...

But go ahead explain more how it's not worth?

Imagine this. You triple attack, each hitting for 210, each one of those proc, 120, now there is six attacks in the time it took for three, that's a best case scenario almost unrivaled.

there is also a better weapon *gasp* not in ToV that's gonna parse very high soon. Price increase is real because aside from being awesome it's tradable.

You talking 2hb items? Or 1hb? Only tradeable 2hb item I know of that is better than T-Staff is that insane Trak weapon that no longer drops (hear there is only 1 on server). Possibly Runed Fighter's Staff due to speed, but the lack of damage bonus may make people continue to lean towards the slower weapons.

Are you alluding to IFS having increased damage bonus? I wouldn't call it better than T-Staff due to proc, but it is a fine weapon and I expect the increased price on it when triple attack comes out.

[Troxx]

IFS will be damn good with the new damage bonuses but I'm pretty sure the sweet spot for delay is 28. IFS will make for some impressively strong hits along with generating both few mob ripostes and BIG pc ripostes on NPCs. Defensively speaking, the stun proc on TStaff will more than make up for the 33% more ripostes (30 delay vs 40).

I'm not sure what other weapon is eluded to other than:

http://wiki.project1999.com/Ton_Po%2..._Understanding

It no longer drops and there is allegedly only one in existence on blue (none on red)

http://wiki.project1999.com/Special:...Blunt/AllItems

If you sort this by ratio you'll see that TStaff is the 6th best ratio for monk 2handers in the entire game. IFS is the 7th best. If you take out the one (literally one period in existence) that no longer drops, they rank 5th and 6th best. Numbers 1-4 are raid nodrops and not relevant to discussions regarding market prices. The 19/20 2hb has an inferior ratio to TStaff and will be too fast to see any improvements with the dmg bonus changes.

So yeah ...

-5th best ratio 2hb in the game
-best ratio 2hb tradable in game
-proc that is in a league of its own
-currently competitive dps to epic/SoS
-soon to be frankly better
-rare rare drop
-lots of monks and monk twinks

I bet the price for IFS bumps to the 10-15k range. I expect TStaff market price will go UP from the 50k mark to rival CoF price ... and possibly (maybe) settle in the 50-60 range long term.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You talking 2hb items? Or 1hb? Only tradeable 2hb item I know of that is better than T-Staff is that insane Trak weapon that no longer drops (hear there is only 1 on server). Possibly Runed Fighter's Staff due to speed, but the lack of damage bonus may make people continue to lean towards the slower weapons.

Are you alluding to IFS having increased damage bonus? I wouldn't call it better than T-Staff due to proc, but it is a fine weapon and I expect the increased price on it when triple attack comes out.

Was alluding to the upgrade on the bo staff from vp. Should of mentioned it wasn't tradable.

Raev posted some thread awhile back painting out the actual dps I'll try to find it and you'll be able to see the diff amongst abashi/ifs/tstaff etc.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there is also a better weapon *gasp* not in ToV that's gonna parse very high soon. Price increase is real because aside from being awesome it's tradable.

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was alluding to the upgrade on the bo staff from ToV. Should of mentioned it wasn't tradable.

Why does this idiot still post here?

[Alanus]

Warlord is camped 24/7, so there is probably a good amount of them on the server.

However, it's still a rare as hell drop (I spent most of 54-60 in KC and never saw one drop or heard of one). It's also the best droppable weapon for a very popular (among both mains and alts/twinks) class.

So 50k is certainly not unreasonable, although the sudden price increase when it was already BIS-droppable is a bit suspicious.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does this idiot still post here?

First quote was talking about why tstaff is going up in price ya doink jeez l2read

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First quote was talking about why tstaff is going up in price ya doink jeez l2read

No you weren't. You explicitly said there was a weapon better than tstaff that was tradeable and doesn't drop in ToV. Then you said never mind, it is from ToV, and it's no drop.

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine this. You triple attack, each hitting for 210, each one of those proc, 120, now there is six attacks in the time it took for three, that's a best case scenario almost unrivaled.

This is a reference to tstaff.

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there is also a better weapon *gasp* not in ToV that's gonna parse very high soon. Price increase is real because aside from being awesome it's tradable.

This is your allegedly "better" weapon.

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was alluding to the upgrade on the bo staff from ToV. Should of mentioned it wasn't tradable.

And here is where you contradict yourself.

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Last edited by kotton05; Today at 10:20 AM..

Oh, look, you edited your post. Why don't you just admit you were wrong instead of lying about it?

[Spyder73]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was alluding to the upgrade on the bo staff from vp. Should of mentioned it wasn't tradable.

Raev posted some thread awhile back painting out the actual dps I'll try to find it and you'll be able to see the diff amongst abashi/ifs/tstaff etc.

Raevs post is also using assumed numbers and multipliers that could be completely bull sh!t so I would not take his post as the word of god until we actually see the upgrade. Speaking of which, I have doubts we will ever even see it....

Would not surprise me at all if they never implement triple attack because what would be the point in making monks more powerful on a time locked server where they are already immensely powerful...

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Alanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So 50k is certainly not unreasonable, although the sudden price increase when it was already BIS-droppable is a bit suspicious.

With respect to dps ... it is not currently "BIS" if you factor in that most monks who could hunt long enough for one themselves or afford the price tag can easily finish their epic. It's still not BIS yet for raw dps ... but it will be. You could argue it was (is ... and will be even more so) BIS when you factor in the proc though.

Price jumped in anticipation of it being the undeniably BIS weapon absent TOV/VP raid loot.

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would not surprise me at all if they never implement triple attack because what would be the point in making monks more powerful on a time locked server where they are already immensely powerful...

Except for the fact that it is classic and within the scope of where this server is headed and ultimately stopping.