Holgresh Elder Beads

[Freakish]

I'm able to carry both a fungi and beads bbecause I am very powerful.

[indiscriminate_hater]

ITT: filthy casuals who are mad because they can't afford a god item

[Whirled]

Can a lower lvl than the caster still kill the eye type spells for XP?
http://wiki.project1999.com/Eye_of_Tallon
http://wiki.project1999.com/Eye_of_Zomm

[Triiz]

Originally Posted by Sillyturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then it seems to me that the issue is that Beads are still valued higher than Fungi when Fungi, in both your opinion and mine is vastly more powerful. The reason for this would appear to be public belief.

I definitely think beads are over priced, but fungi's were farmed to death for what 6+ years? and still being farmed to death now, and beads were available for a limited time.

If I had a monk I think I'd rather have Bio Orb and a bag of Stalking Probes instead of Elder Beads, but I don't have a monk so maybe it's not as good of a combo as I imagine.

In general, nerfed shit will always go up. Look at Ornate Velium Pendant, I have one and it's just not very useful. +100 faction isn't much at all, but they are still 15k and recently people have been trying to raise it to 20k. I don't know why I even keep mine, it has never helped me to complete a quest or use a vendor I wouldn't have been able to do without it. I think it bumped me to Dubious and let me roam around part of Kael on a toon that had never killed any giants, but that's all I can think of.

[Rivera]

i really caused a fuss with this thread all over the place.

i am actively selling holgresh beads and havent been able to sell one at 150k. i was seeing multiples for higher than that so i was just bringing attention to it. no biggie.

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are referencing the single zone in the game where Elder Beads are useful, and honestly they are less useful now due to how finicky FD is (IE it takes a team to pull HoT quickly). To compare Elder Beads and a fungi in terms of power is nonsense also, I would take a fungi over Elder Beads 100 out of 100 times

You still can pull a pocket of mobs to your location in perfect safety, and have a team member tag stragglers. Still trivializes the pulling. Same with bio orb, trivializes splitting. Face pulling used to be dangerous, splitting takes learning with the new system.

And I've seen monks using eye everywhere to pull, not just HoT. It's just sad really that pulling is left up to a few trinkets that make it super easy.

EQ wasn't meant to be that way, supposed to learn from your mistakes and master your class abilities through trial and error and guidance from other members.

Obviously we have to live with what transpired during classic, but its painfully obvious that beads were nerfed so it didn't become a widespread problem. It's a legacy item that in my opinion is ruining the server of a more classic experience.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ wasn't meant to be that way, supposed to learn from your mistakes and master your class abilities through trial and error and guidance from other members.

I agree with this wholeheartedly, but thing is not everyone agrees with how EQ was meant to be played. This is purely an opinion.

Using this logic, one would surmise you also do not like any clickies that grant unfair advantages in groups/raids like clicky complete heal items, clicky DA items, clicky slow items, etc., etc.

Where does it end?

Honestly I'd be perfectly fine if items could not be recharged and abused to render content easy to conquer just as I would be fine with a nerf to some items that do the same, which is render content easy... But many would not be fine with such a change.

[Triiz]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly I'd be perfectly fine if items could not be recharged and abused to render content easy to conquer just as I would be fine with a nerf to some items that do the same, which is render content easy... But many would not be fine with such a change.

If just recharging was nerfed, it would have little to no impact on how raiding is currently done. Some of the most used clickies in the game aren't even usually recharged.

DA Idol - Can't be recharged
Soulfire - Can't be recharged
Reaper - Way more expensive to recharge than to buy a new one and they are easy to find in EC.
Midnight Mallet - Almost always cheaper to quest a new one than to recharge. There is always 20+ corpses of the same Halfling at the troll vendor in middle of swamp, I assume that's a raid guild mule. Supply is unlimited so you could corpse hundreds of them if you wanted.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Triiz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If just recharging was nerfed, it would have little to no impact on how raiding is currently done. Some of the most used clickies in the game aren't even usually recharged.

DA Idol - Can't be recharged
Soulfire - Can't be recharged
Reaper - Way more expensive to recharge than to buy a new one and they are easy to find in EC.
Midnight Mallet - Almost always cheaper to quest a new one than to recharge. There is always 20+ corpses of the same Halfling at the troll vendor in middle of swamp, I assume that's a raid guild mule. Supply is unlimited so you could corpse hundreds of them if you wanted.

That's true but you get my point. I also added if items were simply nerfed, as well.

I think this is a situation where you simply can't please everyone and so those of us that don't like how some items are used just have to accept it and move on. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Skew]

Im looking for a 2nd pair im paying 125k , same as the last. PST.