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Old 10-05-2017, 08:27 AM
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The real problem is the USA is just too poor to do a buy back scheme (like Australia did) and no one will willing give up their firearms with no reimbursement.
def hard to argue those stats

"the right to bare arms" written in 18th century... a gun back then took 20 seconds to reload having you manually squeeze a powder into the barrel, i don't think anyone argues with anyone having such a "weapon"... but why does one lonely sad motherfucker need the firepower of an army at his disposal to protect himself from imminent death of diabetus?
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def hard to argue those stats

"the right to bare arms" written in 18th century... a gun back then took 20 seconds to reload having you manually squeeze a powder into the barrel, i don't think anyone argues with anyone having such a "weapon"... but why does one lonely sad motherfucker need the firepower of an army at his disposal to protect himself from imminent death of diabetus?
If our founding fathers wanted us to have muskets, they would have written muskets and not arms. They knew weapons were going to get better. And as far as the Las Vegas thing, it's hard to stop some rich faggot from snapping one day, buying up a decent collection of arms and mowing down innocent people in a country that enjoys freedom like the US does. If it wasn't guns, it could've been a car or ied.

When the eu finally comes to homogenate your country and start making you pay for the shortcomings of places like Italy while enforcing arbitrary rules that you have no say in, enjoy that no arms restriction while the United States of America celebrates the fourth of July with guns, fireworks and almost 250 years of freedom.

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Old 10-05-2017, 09:19 AM
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Sorry your countries take away your freedoms. But I am almost 100% sure if you gave guns to euros bat shit crazy would be a whole new level.

Stay oppressed. Will keep our guns in circulation. How's the queen doing?
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Old 10-05-2017, 10:49 AM
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If our founding fathers wanted us to have muskets, they would have written muskets and not arms. They knew weapons were going to get better. And as far as the Las Vegas thing, it's hard to stop some rich faggot from snapping one day, buying up a decent collection of arms and mowing down innocent people in a country that enjoys freedom like the US does. If it wasn't guns, it could've been a car or ied.

When the eu finally comes to homogenate your country and start making you pay for the shortcomings of places like Italy while enforcing arbitrary rules that you have no say in, enjoy that no arms restriction while the United States of America celebrates the fourth of July with guns, fireworks and almost 250 years of freedom.

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failed to grasp my argument, i don't think anyone cares if you have a handgun, but why do you need military class weapons as a civilian?
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Old 10-05-2017, 11:11 AM
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failed to grasp my argument, i don't think anyone cares if you have a handgun, but why do you need military class weapons as a civilian?
Well, there are a few reasons
1. Because we can if we choose to

2. It's a great deterrent from any country thinking about invading/going to war with us on our home front.

3. In the occasion that the government steps out of line and becomes a tyranny, we can at least form some sort of resistance.

4. If the government becomes incapacitated, we can still defend ourselves.

America doesn't exist because some king held the territory and made a government for it. America exists because it's a country by the people and for the people. Our people are supposed to be taught to not need the government unless it's an emergency and a lot of the sheep in this country are forgetting that. The rest of the world already gave up its freedoms but it'll be a sad day when America does. The day we give up our guns is day we go down that slippery slope of taking that eu dick.


We're number one for a reason, sorry.
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Old 10-05-2017, 11:41 AM
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Well, there are a few reasons
1. Because we can if we choose to

2. It's a great deterrent from any country thinking about invading/going to war with us on our home front.

3. In the occasion that the government steps out of line and becomes a tyranny, we can at least form some sort of resistance.

4. If the government becomes incapacitated, we can still defend ourselves.

America doesn't exist because some king held the territory and made a government for it. America exists because it's a country by the people and for the people. Our people are supposed to be taught to not need the government unless it's an emergency and a lot of the sheep in this country are forgetting that. The rest of the world already gave up its freedoms but it'll be a sad day when America does. The day we give up our guns is day we go down that slippery slope of taking that eu dick.


We're number one for a reason, sorry.
I live in a richer, cleaner country than the USA and not once in it's history has there been a requirement to own 40 assault rifles for home defence.

Infact it'd be considered insanity down here because there's basically no threat of someone showing up at your doorstep with a 120 round clip assault rifle trying to rob your tv set for a crack hit.

There are plently of guns around but they are regulated and generally in the hands of farmers and registered hunters. Where they are not however easy to get are some angry 21 year old white/black male walking in to walmart and buying a semi automatic assualt rifle over the counter with a very basic criminal check. So that next time he gets disrespected at Wendy's drive thru he can go in to a blind rage and pull it out of the boot of his car and blow 3 people away (not reported as a mass shooting btw).

Bottom line is the 'Merica business dream is in full force with the NRA playing both sides; crims buy guns, 'good' people buy guns: end result gun companies get wealthy at the expense of society and everyone runs around claiming some archaic amendment as justification. It's a perfect example of commercialism....and all these idiots with sub 100 IQs run around spouting the same "it's my right" crap.

When your country normalizes mass shootings as "just part of daily life now" that's a problem...then again 50%+ of people voted for Hillary Clinton so really it's self explanatory.
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Old 10-05-2017, 11:52 AM
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The idealology is this:

Everyone deserves the right to bare arms
Picture a fire place with the family heirloom rifle from the frontier days hanging above it and a hand gun in daddies gun safe in the bedroom.

Reality is:

270+ mass shootings this year alone involving 4+ victims, this doesn't include the greater statistic of 1-3 victim shooting stats...because the NRA has help write the definition of a "mass shooting".

Idealology and reality are two different things, clearly.
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I live in a richer, cleaner country than the USA and not once in it's history has there been a requirement to own 40 assault rifles for home defence.

Infact it'd be considered insanity down here because there's basically no threat of someone showing up at your doorstep with a 120 round clip assault rifle trying to rob your tv set for a crack hit.

There are plently of guns around but they are regulated and generally in the hands of farmers and registered hunters. Where they are not however easy to get are some angry 21 year old white/black male walking in to walmart and buying a semi automatic assualt rifle over the counter with a very basic criminal check. So that next time he gets disrespected at Wendy's drive thru he can go in to a blind rage and pull it out of the boot of his car and blow 3 people away (not reported as a mass shooting btw).

Bottom line is the 'Merica business dream is in full force with the NRA playing both sides; crims buy guns, 'good' people buy guns: end result gun companies get wealthy at the expense of society and everyone runs around claiming some archaic amendment as justification. It's a perfect example of commercialism....and all these idiots with sub 100 IQs run around spouting the same "it's my right" crap.

When your country normalizes mass shootings as "just part of daily life now" that's a problem...then again 50%+ of people voted for Hillary Clinton so really it's self explanatory.
Nice catch on subtle racism.
If you consider one of the worst attacks on American soil since 9/11 to be normal, then you're a moron. It's real easy to say that your country is doing great on debt when you have the USA out there protecting everyone. If we didn't spend money like we do, China or fuck even India would have their hand up your ass working you like a puppet with your minimal military presence. Fuck, you guys don't even have nukes. Consider yourself lucky and show some respect that your betters in America are out there protecting your backwoods country from the rest of the world while we're over here enjoying our freedom.


Ps doesn't your sister live here?
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Good post.


Sadly, the more government intrusion in our lives as Americans the less freedoms we have. Take health care for instance... People are relying on to much government and are growing accustomed to it. It's rather disgusting.

Also, in response to the Aussie boii - there is a reason America is #1 and will always be... You damn Kangaroo
Shouldnt you be hanging around some clubbing girls @2am trying to take awkward looking cheek kissing photos with them so you can get closer to their male friends to spike their drinks and suck them off in the toliet cubical?
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