Activists Hold Funeral For Frozen Chicken In Store

[Pokesan]

if you eat meat you have to be on board with eating human meat there's no way around it

[Mead]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you eat meat you have to be on board with eating human meat there's no way around it

I got something meaty and extra rare for you to eat

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I got something meaty and extra rare for you to eat

*applies Chaboo eyeliner*

let's do this

[Nilstoniakrath]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm an animal rights activist. I'm familiar with the group who performed this demonstration and interact with their members on a weekly basis. I know the members of this forum are smart people who realize that eating animal parts and secretions is terribly detrimental to our personal health and that animal agriculture is destroying the planet. I mean, you're all well-educated woke folks, so I don't need to explain all this in detail.

That said, I'd like to take this opportunity to ask you all a quick question. I don't personally involve myself in these supermarket funerals because I'm not sure about the efficacy of these sort of demonstrations. I see a couple "lol's" and "wtf's" and frankly that's sort of what I expect. But I wonder, what sort of demonstration do you believe would be helpful in getting you to abandon the comfort of your cognitive dissonance to start making better choices based on facts and logic, rather than defaulting to the social programming with which you've been raised?

Showing actual mistreatment of animals can be very effective.

This virtue signaling bullsh!t, on the other hand, is absolute nonsense and only subjects your side to much-deserved ridicule and mockery.

[Patriam1066]

"I used to smoke meth"

"Listen to my health advice"

Barkingturtle you're a smart guy please tell me that admission was just a humorous exaggeration of the deleterious effects you believe meat has on the human body. Really hope I missed the subtlety and nuance

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"I used to smoke meth"

"Listen to my health advice"

Barkingturtle you're a smart guy please tell me that admission was just a humorous exaggeration of the deleterious effects you believe meat has on the human body. Really hope I missed the subtlety and nuance

Well let's be honest here, he was probably just being honest about himself. I don't fault people for sharing with others their past plights etc. Don't fault him for showing he is human and not perfect but striving to improve himself as evidenced by where he was in life to where he is in life now.

[Evia]

I've been vegetarian for 12 years. Off and on vegan...but that's the ultimate goal.

The first couple of years I sounded alot like barkingturtle. Online, at school, at work, I was constantly talking about it. Because it was so insane to me that we as a culture slaughtered helpless animals to eat their flesh and nobody batted an eye about it. In fact, I was the "weird" one because I questioned the practice. Fast forward though and now I actively avoid talking to anyone about any of my beliefs. At the end of the day it gets exhausting and frustrating arguing or debating with things their not interested in realistically spending some critical thinking on. I gave up trying to educate people and just accepted that some people see what I see and some don't.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've been vegetarian for 12 years. Off and on vegan...but that's the ultimate goal.

The first couple of years I sounded alot like barkingturtle. Online, at school, at work, I was constantly talking about it. Because it was so insane to me that we as a culture slaughtered helpless animals to eat their flesh and nobody batted an eye about it. In fact, I was the "weird" one because I questioned the practice. Fast forward though and now I actively avoid talking to anyone about any of my beliefs. At the end of the day it gets exhausting and frustrating arguing or debating with things their not interested in realistically spending some critical thinking on. I gave up trying to educate people and just accepted that some people see what I see and some don't.

That's me when it comes to all the controversial topics people get into discussing.

Its great to see idealistic people like Barkingturtle, and perhaps they do touch others with their idealism but for me it's just far too draining trying to convert others to believe what I believe.

I rather focus my energies into things I have more control over, and spend my time discussing not debating with people topics like religion, politics, etc.

I also don't think to myself that only I hold the light. I have to accept the fact that my perspective isn't the only perspective that is correct, it's just the correct perspective for me.

[Barkingturtle]

I can tell by the responses mentioning my status and virtue signaling that I came across as more adversarial in this thread than I intended. My apologies. I run hot and absurd on the internet. This is honestly the most I've ever discussed animal rights on a forum, because I know I'm acerbic and prone to insults and I don't feel that represents the compassion-based advocacy I perform in real life very well. It also gives people an opportunity to critique my tone rather than confronting my message, so that's just draining. Really, my most important activism is done at home and offline, since my wife and I recently launched a small-scale animal sanctuary and it's been keeping us pretty busy. We've rescued ten animals so far, from hoarding situations and shelters. I have a rooster living in my house. He's addicted to the educational sitcom classic Saved By the Bell and I'm not even fucking around here.

But I digress. I think it's important to realize that the goal of the group in the OP's video is not to convert people to veganism. They intend to close ALL slaughterhouses through legislation. The movement is about gaining personhood for animals so that they are granted basic rights. And it's already working. Courtroom precedent has been set, with judges in several cases determining that animals are people, too. I'd guess that within thirty years we will stop killing animals for food.

What will that look like? Well, for the guy who demanded facts earlier in the thread, that will mean we stop killing 50 BILLION land animals each year for food. It will mean we stop killing a TRILLION marine animals annually. It will open up a third of the Earth's unfrozen surface which is currently reserved for the grazing of livestock. It will likely slow the destruction of the Amazon, where 9 of every 10 tress felled comes down to make room for animal farming. It will greatly reduce greenhouse emissions, since animal agriculture is responsible for more greenhouse gases than all modes of transportation--combined. It will devastate big pharma, who currently sells 4 times as many antibiotics for use on the animals you eat than they sell for human use(yikes your food must be super sick, huh?). It will free up a third of the world's water. Did you know it takes 2500 gallons of water to produce one pound of beef? 1000 gallons for a gallon of milk? 900 gallons for a pound of cheese? Nearly 500 gallons for a pound of eggs? I could literally go on all day with this type of terrifying data.

Shocking fucking shit, huh? So now imagine taking the time to educate yourself about this stuff and then having people bitch about your tone and your virtue signaling and other inconsequential garbage. Like, I'm talking about the fate of fucking humanity here and motherfuckers are all too eager to critique my branding. If you feel I'm signaling, perhaps it's simply a reflection of your own guilt? A subconscious acknowledgement of your complicity in the most outrageous system of destructive oppression man has ever devised. It fucking ought to be. I mean, I think twice as hard about every action in which I engage, every purchase I make, in order to minimize the suffering I cause others. Does this not make me more virtuous than someone who bases their decisions solely on personal gratification and convenience? Of course it does. But this isn't signaling, this is simply a dude trying to live a life with a hint of virtue. And it's just laughable that people would attempt to silence someone they know is invested in promoting equality--across species, even--by suggesting I intend to elevate myself above others through the act of promoting equality. This is the cognitive dissonance at work, friends.

I can't tell you how often people try to turn our own decency and empathy against us in this movement. I photograph animals on slaughter-trucks and the drivers sneer and say, "you're scaring them." The animals have eighteen inches of intestine prolapsed, red and glistening, and I'm scaring them. The animals have never seen the sun until they're loaded onto trucks to and transported to slaughter--and this motherfucker cares if I'm scaring them? You're participating in the worst holocaust ever committed in the history of Man--and I'm supposed to believe you care about the victims of my virtue signaling? Stop it.

You're better than this and I believe you can be even better.

[Lulz~Sect]

Is pizza cruel or just less cruel? 2-3 dinners a week are a Margherita slice.