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[Pokesan]

uhh the bundy movement was because he refused to pay cattle grazing fees on public land

[mickmoranis]

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uhh the bundy movement was because he refused to pay cattle grazing fees on public land

that partly is correct, that land is not owned by anyone, including a bureaucratic agency, why would someone pay to use it. These ranchers have been using that land for grazing for generations.

The standoff was becuse the bureacratic agency was trying to put outragous fines on the rancher to unfairlyl punish him for breaking a beurocratic law that he and the people of the area did not subscribe to: "law enforcement following a 21-year legal dispute in which the United States Bureau of Land Management (BLM) obtained court orders directing Bundy to pay over $1 million in withheld grazing fees"

It was the law of the LOCAL land, all the ranchers there agreed. However the FEDERAL Government didnt. And so they tried to infringe on their constitutional rights.

It was theft using overreaching goverment.

Think about it: You support indians having a stand off with a buisness entity that purchased the right to land, but you dont support individuals who have been using un owned land for generations to suddenly owe back payment to the goverment who claim they own the land.

Land is owned if someone buys it not if the goverment just tells you its theirs. this is not the king of englands right to hunt only type of country, you go there if you want to be told what to do and when to do it.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that partly is correct, that land is not owned by anyone, including a bureaucratic agency, why would someone pay to use it. These ranchers have been using that land for generations.

The movement was becuse the bureacratic agency was trying to incracerate him and unfairlyl punish him for breaking a beurocratic law that he and the people of the area did not subscribe to.

It was the law of the LOCAL land, all the ranchers there agreed. However the FEDERAL Government didnt. And so they tried to infringe on their constitutional rights.

local law is irrelevant, federal supremacy u tard

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

local law is irrelevant, federal supremacy u tard

that is the point, federal supremacy is an attack on the very concept of the united states. But you are brainwashed into the cult of buzzfeed to think you need a goverment telling you how to live and think and to solve all your worries.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that is the point, federal supremacy is an attack on the very concept of the united states. But you are brainwashed into the cult of buzzfeed to think you need a goverment telling you how to live and think and to solve all your worries.

Supremacy Clause

The Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution (Article VI, Clause 2) establishes that the Constitution, federal laws made pursuant to it, and treaties made under its authority, constitute the supreme law of the land.[1] It provides that state courts are bound by the supreme law; in case of conflict between federal and state law, the federal law must be applied. Even state constitutions are subordinate to federal law.[2] In essence, it is a conflict-of-laws rule specifying that certain federal acts take priority over any state acts that conflict with federal law. In this respect, the Supremacy Clause follows the lead of Article XIII of the Articles of Confederation, which provided that "Every State shall abide by the determination of the United States in Congress Assembled, on all questions which by this confederation are submitted to them."[3] A constitutional provision announcing the supremacy of federal law, the Supremacy Clause assumes the underlying priority of federal authority, at least when that authority is expressed in the Constitution itself.[4] No matter what the federal government or the states might wish to do, they have to stay within the boundaries of the Constitution. This makes the Supremacy Clause the cornerstone of the whole American political structure.[5][6]

[mickmoranis]

Look it was a publicity stunt to get funding for the overreaching buerocratic agency, and NOTHING more: "All of this means prosecutors are under enormous pressure to get a conviction in Las Vegas. Joan Anzelmo, a retired federal land manager and frequent Bundy critic, says an acquittal of the family patriarch and his closest associates would send a chilling message to federal employees in the West."

This is about feds, having more power than they deserve, spending more tax dollars than they need, and trying to victimise an individual who is harming nobody or nothing, to prove to the senate budget commitie that they need MORE of your tax dollars.

NOBODY was bothered by the bundy family except for the feds who wanted to convince the budget commities to give them more money and or not cut their already bloated budgets.

You need to trust less and start realizing that if you want this socialist utopia you are going to have to be more critical of the way your agencies spend their money.

You're fighting for the TSA right now kiddo. Or the war on drugs. You name it, you're a cucked cultist that worships the federal state (except when it sells the right to use the land to OIL INDUSTRY) You're a hypocrite cuck. wake up dude.

Or at the very least, move the hell outa this country, isntead of trying to change it to fit your needs.

[Pokesan]

*pastes constitution*

*gets called a cultist*

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[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*pastes constitution*

*gets called a cultist*

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you dont get it, I understand. You are like a nazi soldier in ww2, you're not evil, youre not bad, you're just brainwashed.

https://youtu.be/UHVDGiaJY_w

This is about AGENCIES overreaching their constitutional rights and manipulating the constitution to empower their AGENCY not the federal goverment.

It was a personal witch hunt by the administrators of the BLM which is an agency that is not necessary, especially the way it is used to force people to pay fines that THEY created. Not the constitution.

Its about money, its about convincing you that farmers are out there steeling YOUR tax dollars, so the administration can steel your tax dollars and pay for their overbloated budgets. There were 0 complaints except for the ones made by the Beuro of land management.

How can you be so obtuse that you think systematic racisim and the patriarchy is a giant conspiracy to harm non white males but then think that exact same system is right when they say a farmer owes them 1 million dollars?

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you dont get it, I understand. You are like a nazi soldier in ww2, you're not evil, youre not bad, you're just brainwashed.

https://youtu.be/UHVDGiaJY_w

This is about AGENCIES overreaching their constitutional rights and manipulating the constitution to empower their AGENCY not the federal goverment.

It was a personal witch hunt by the administrators of the BLM which is an agency that is not necessary, especially the way it is used to force people to pay fines that THEY created. Not the constitution.

Its about money, its about convincing you that farmers are out there steeling YOUR tax dollars, so the administration can steel your tax dollars and pay for their overbloated budgets. There were 0 complaints except for the ones made by the Beuro of land management.

How can you be so obtuse that you think systematic racisim and the patriarchy is a giant conspiracy to harm non white males but then think that exact same system is right when they say a farmer owes them 1 million dollars?

yeah i'll get right on donating to the millionaire farmer deadbeat, poor chap is being oppressed