Patch Notes, Sunday Morning, February 14th, 2010 - Page 4

guineapig · #31 02-14-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by drplump [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hate is based on how much damage each player has done to the mob. This happens a lot on raids especially. If 5 people did 10% of the mobs HP in damage and you nuke it for 14% its going to come after you.

This is an oversimplification and simply not true. There are many other factors involved in hate then damage. How do you think the lowest DPS classes like Paly and SK manage to keep agro? It has absolutely nothing to do with their damage output. Hell, even warriors have always relied on stun and debuff procs for max agro generation.

Also, I can't think of many raid mobs where a single player can do 14% damage to the mob with one nuke (until later expansions with higher lvl caps, AA's focus effects and such). If you meant over the duration of the fight then it's also moot because hate levels are constantly changing with each player character during the duration of the fight.

So I'm not sure where you got this idea from.

/threadjack off

Hasbinbad · #32 02-14-2010, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kissemisse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Chanter illussion doesnt work either, but maybe thats how it was in classic, what do i know.

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Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It must be your religion. I can walk around every single area in Neriak without being KOS, even near the necros.

Unless the patch changed this it's your religion (I'm agnostic as all enchanters should be).

This is a post patch mechanics break. Dark Elf illusion factions (at least from the mask) are now broken (i have heard from other enchanters that their illusions are broken too, but I have only confirmed the mask).

guineapig · #33 02-14-2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a post patch mechanics break. Dark Elf illusion factions (at least from the mask) are now broken (i have heard from other enchanters that their illusions are broken too, but I have only confirmed the mask).

Well shit, I'm glad I didn't log off in Neriak then...

guineapig · #34 02-14-2010, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bakaris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Charm was OPed, but this nerf is too much. 212 cha and charm dont last more than a few ticks on a blue con mob. If I am lucky a minute. Nerf is too harsh.

I feel sorry for any enchanters or bards who bothered to put points into charisma during character creation instead of STA (thank god I didn't). It was always a waste to invest in that stat on live and it looks like now it will be here as well. Might be time for a reroll.

Variyn2210 · #35 02-14-2010, 03:38 PM

YEAH! First day of patch and 1018 patch already ruined me from playing. Not even hacking and character get stuck in. Now I cant log in. Thanks for bring that back in the patch <3

Devil · #36 02-14-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by drplump [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hate is based on how much damage each player has done to the mob. This happens a lot on raids especially. If 5 people did 10% of the mobs HP in damage and you nuke it for 14% its going to come after you.

People saying there charm is breaking right away please specify which mobs you are trying to charm. I think all that was changed is they switched the importance of CHA vs MR and now a lot of high MR hard to charm mobs are breaking it. I know in PoF the Gorgons are supposed to be not worth charming. As it was pre-patch they did in fact resist charm a lot but once it landed it lasted the same as any mob despite their high MR. It is supposed to have a similar but reduced chance for them to break it each tick based on MR.

Troll guards in Grobb. Prepatch they were charm-able to a 42 with 231 CHA. Now they are not, not longer than about 12 seconds anyway. Also Tash does not increase the duration of this by any time whatsoever.

drplump · #37 02-14-2010, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Devil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Troll guards in Grobb. Prepatch they were charm-able to a 42 with 231 CHA. Now they are not, not longer than about 12 seconds anyway. Also Tash does not increase the duration of this by any time whatsoever.

Ok that sucks guards are supposed to be a staple chanter pet.

**Rogean** · #38 02-14-2010, 06:07 PM

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Hate is based on how much damage each player has done to the mob.

Negative. Hate is based on potential damage.

**Rogean** · #39 02-14-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Voner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Any changes that would block the use of ShowEQ or what ever it is that is used by higher end guilds to know the spawn time of boss mobs?

Don't we love people spewing shit out of their mouth without any facts?

Hasbinbad · #40 02-14-2010, 06:32 PM

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Any changes that would block the use of ShowEQ or what ever it is that is used by higher end guilds to know the spawn time of boss mobs?

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I use my magical fairy dust, that allows the demon to come into this plane. Once the demon is here, I use my magical demon-leash, which allows me to control him, and then I force him to tell me when the mawbs spawn.

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Don't we love people spewing shit out of their mouth without any facts?

WTF?
He obviously knew the fact of my demon and the fact of my fairy dust. What about the fact of my demon-leash? He obviously knew that but didn't want to get me in trouble. How about those facts huh?