P99 Sky Agreement - why its bad for the server

[Sadiki]

Yet another situation that could be resolved by just being friendly and talking to another human being, but here we are.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by icedwards [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Planarity is just scum for farming KoS on Clue's indefinitely suspended sky day, which is somehow worse than Noble snipers /boggle

We're just a hotbed of Villany on p99 velious blue!

[Siberious]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does anyone really think FFA days are going to open up epic pieces and haste belts to casuals?

Originally OP said Sky Agreement prevents others not in agreement from getting epics and such, that's who I've been directing my comments to. Only reason casual guilds get more of these epic pieces and haste belts is because of the agreement, hence all my comments about mobs being socked without 1.

I can appreciate others different preferred experiences, so if he likes FFA for a couple days it'd be worth requesting to GMs if he wants, I just imagine it being a few groups key to 8 and then sock the few named they want 2 days a week. Sounds like other, imo, sucky raid scene experiences that exist.

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by Siberious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally OP said Sky Agreement prevents others not in agreement from getting epics and such, that's who I've been directing my comments to. Only reason casual guilds get more of these epic pieces and haste belts is because of the agreement, hence all my comments about mobs being socked without 1.

I can appreciate others different preferred experiences, so if he likes FFA for a couple days it'd be worth requesting to GMs if he wants, I just imagine it being a few groups key to 8 and then sock the few named they want 2 days a week. Sounds like other, imo, sucky raid content that exists.

Based on OP’s stated goals and position, though, I am curious what guilds are currently being denied sky slots that want them, or if OP is part of a farm crew that doesn’t want to deal with the rules of a widespread player agreement that is pretty well liked, as far as I know.

[Wonkie]

its for your own good sky is terrible

[Dithien]

All that needs to be done is to require Sky guilds/alliance to post a notification on the forums when they are not going up. Every week several/maybe as many as half the slots are not used.

Once the guild notifies that they aren't going up, that slot becomes FFA during that period. People going up could just be warned not to kill stuff late enough to interfere with the next slot.

Problem solved.

[Triiz]

What guild are you in OP that this is now a big concern compared to the player made agreement that was in effect for years before Sirken's post? I don't see how this is different for guilds, just farm crews.

[Foxplay]

It must be really hard to be a friendly person and reaching out and communicating with the guilds that have sky slots like a reasonable, civil, adult in order to finish epics....

If they dont want to share there may be some reasons
1) They have members that need before unguilded
2) Your in a guild that sky is "beneath them" due to competing for higher value targets. And due to your tag they have no interest in helping you.
3) You can't communicate like a reasonable human or they hate you
4) They are using their sky slot to Bogart epic MQ plat

Also if your in a guild that doesn't have a sky slot because it's not worth it for them, then booho. Enjoy your velious loot and you can probably afford the MQ anyway

[Canelek]

Is this proposal coming from leadership of OP's guild? If so, which guild? It can be as easy as just typing words to another person to communicate. It's not like you need to set up a conference room w/projector.

Most folks are actually quite reasonable humanelfs.

[Ketu Garyx]

Originally Posted by Jokesteve [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to mention, if you're one of the unfortunate classes (ranger, monk, enc, mage, paladin) that have epic items in this zone you will now have to leave your guild and join one of the above if you don't want to pay a ridiculous MQ price, or hope your guild is friends with one of the above and hope the host guild does not have a player that already needs the item.

Somewhat TLDR for the whole post but really? I generally lead the Hydra Alliance sky raids and I have absolutely never turned down a ranger from coming to Island 4 to get a swirling sphere, an enchanter can literally just port up to plane of sky, grab the thing and leave, the gwan fight for monks takes like 12 seconds - ask to come up, hell we will probably let you and help, magician: see ench, and paladin and necro can easily be done during someone else's raid with cooperation as well. These quests are 100% not blocked by a player agreement and to say they are is dishonest. You don't need to leave a guild or be "in" with a guild to get help, you just need to ask. I am 90% sure most of the other guilds would feel the same way, especially for some of these incredibly simple and not-rare items/drops/turn ins.