Joeseph Stack's Suicide Letter

[Hoggen]

Some of what happened to this guy was bad luck; some was the work of criminals; most of it was just his incapacity to think things through before he did something stupid, such as flying a plane into a building filled with low level functunaries of an enforcement branch of government that has little or no legislative authority.

He didn't consult with reputable professionals on how to start/run a business and failed to file the proper paperwork to prevent having unnecessary problems with tax enforcement agencies. He didn't give his CPA all the income receipts necessary for him to properly figure his taxes. He hung out with tax revolutionaries who didn't know their asses from a hole in the ground, and were likely trying to rip him off as well.

I've made alot of mistakes in my life. I don't blame the government, or my exes, or my CPA, or the boogeyman. This guy was a loser, and deserving of sympathy for how absolutely idiotic he was; but to say his murder-suicide was anything other than an act of derangement is denying the facts he presents in his letter. If you want to change the world, you don't do it by killing yourself and one other nameless IRS employee, and burning down the house your wife and kids live in: you fight till your last breath against those forces you feel oppress you and you use the most effective tools available, and you constantly search for more. This guy was just whacked.

[Yoite]

FYI if you want a copy of this you should save it to your hard-drive. word on the street is the FBI are trying to get rid of copies of this letter on blogs and shit.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Yoite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FYI if you want a copy of this you should save it to your hard-drive. word on the street is the FBI are trying to get rid of copies of this letter on blogs and shit.

That's a load of crap, completely illegal and practically impossible for them to do. Not saying they wouldn't love to be able to do it, but it's not gonna happen.

[Yoite]

well the govnt doesn't obey their own laws so i wouldn't put it past them. but ya, it would be pretty much impossible as someone can just re-post it. but apparently they aren't happy about it being distributed.

[Dac321]

[QUOTE=Anuril;21754]Unfortunately revolutionary acts often involve violence. I disagree with Stack's violent act, but history tells me that it is one of the best ways to forward a valid point in the face of overwhelming opposition.[/QUOTE

You are absolutely right... It was absolutely horrible the entire event. And I, aswell disagree with Stack's violence. But sadly, that is the only way people listen.

[Grumpo]

Legal and moral philosophy aside, I've got this to say: Just finished a two week nightmare of trying to do my wife's taxes. Mine were no problem, I worked at a community college and the government takes care of its own. She had an internship and was billed as an independent contractor (what Stack talked about in the tax code). She made less than a quarter of poverty-level income. Her effective tax was negative 800 dollars, but because she was an independent contractor, she owes the government $250.

I'll repeat this. She made less than one quarter of poverty level income (she was single at the time). She owes the government 10% of her BELOW POVERTY LEVEL income, because she had the audacity to work under the IRS's "self-employed" label.

Stack's not crazy. He just has better access to machinery than most people.

Also, start grouping with bards. These pre-10 levels are terrible.

[Zithax]

Originally Posted by Erasong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, Martin Luther King Jr, and Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi wouldnt be half as great men are they are if blood were truely a pre requisite of change.

This does not change the fact that their oppressors used violence trying to suppress them though. Blood WAS shed, although it may not have been by the hand of the ones wanting change.

[Hasbinbad]

Oops.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Bannedfornoreason [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty. – Thomas Jefferson

A government which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul. – George Bernard Shaw

America needs fewer laws, not more prisons. – James Bovard

There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him. – Robert Heinlein

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. – Goethe

Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. – H.L. Mencken

The power to tax is the power to destroy. – John Marshall

A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. – Edward R. Murrow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJQ_lE6UL1o

You forgot:
People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of their people. - Alan Moore

..but honestly, Ron Paul's hype is WAY better than his platforms.

[faenyar]

Let's keep this in perspective. The man owned his own business. He "neglected" to file a tax return. When he finally did file a tax return, he "neglected" to report his wife's income (in other words, he cheated on his taxes and got caught). He also complains that the federal government doesn't take care of the people that need it, yet he cheats on paying the very taxes that go to help those people that need it.

He then proceeds to set his own home that he owned on fire, and then crashed his own private plane into a building and kills himself as a "protest" statement. And he's complaining about how unfair the system is.

The man is a psychopathic lunatic and an idiot.