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Old 11-19-2019, 03:42 PM
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basically everyone bearded who didn't realize mages got no pets, rerolled enchanter. my advice is to just stay put, wait for the fix. we got a few days before the hordes of normies catch up to 34's. IMO the shitstorm is only starting to turtle.
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Old 11-19-2019, 03:53 PM
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This is why one-sided input such as the one you have delivered in this regard should be flat out ignored.

People get salty, find some kind of evidence to support their case, and will ignore everything and anything else, even if breaking the progression of a class.
You're happy to quote my research in the chanter charm thread though. Funny that.

Almost like you're a massive troll who should just be ignored.
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Old 11-19-2019, 04:06 PM
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You're happy to quote my research in the chanter charm thread though. Funny that.

Almost like you're a massive troll who should just be ignored.
Because unlike the mage feedback, it isn't one-sided.

People complained and used shitty sources, you came up with a reaction.

When it comes to mages, noone looked into the results your feedback would provide.
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Old 11-19-2019, 04:09 PM
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Chatwin was 49 last I saw. Gigamage.

Mages have a better 49 nuke than wizards right now until ice comet comes in.
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Old 11-19-2019, 05:27 PM
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Yeah maxximus is 50 also i think and i should get there pretty soon.
I mean the class is still very useful if you have people to group with. Just much less fun. I like to be able to help cc’ing with pets, it is not possible right now.

The gameplay is send pet and nuke. But try to keep moving your pet out of hit range cause he will die almost instantly. In tight spaces or with root cc its a real annoyance.

Lguk with aoéing wizards ? Make sure pet have a guard spot far back and try to avoid all aoe. So your pet will die and often. So you just have to resummon.

But wait, you want to contribute as much as possible cause has a nuker without clarity, pet does help contribution. Too bad your pet are all deep green, no way of knowing if its a max pet before melee test. But they they so low they struggle to get max hit, so you pass your nights testing and resummonning.

It works but its so boring and annoying. Next reboot, we will get better mages.
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Old 11-19-2019, 05:49 PM
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Rend isn't in the game for a few more months. A pet-less Mage is going to be a better nuker than a 50 wizard without ice comet.
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Old 11-19-2019, 06:21 PM
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Chatwin was 49 last I saw. Gigamage.

Mages have a better 49 nuke than wizards right now until ice comet comes in.
And to be clear, wizard nuke, "Rend" is still a far better nuke than "lava bolt"
More damage per mana and faster cast. Also it is not limited like the bolt spell. i am sure i don't need to list the disadvantages of bolt spells. So our 44 Nuke is most likely going to be mostly used.

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Ah, just read Dolalin comment, didnt knew Rend wasnt in.

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I would argue Wizard 44 nuke is still bettet than mage nuke a litlle better than shock of sword and alot better than bolt that is unreliable.
Still as pure nuker, they are pretty much equal. One can do other things tho, the other, not so much in the current state.
Still, wizard, tough class, not one of the least played for no reason.
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Old 11-19-2019, 07:25 PM
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The more "this is stupid even if it is classic" stuff we change, the more we start eroding away the very thing that p99 worked hard to re-create.

There's many things to complain about on release...

It sucks for big races to have no shrink, relying on camping guise.

It sucks for chanters who don't have clarity.

These "challenges" are what make starting a character "on release" something that people remember -- because they'll appreciate when the things "get fixed".

Just my 2cp
This is a weird argument to me... and goes into the spirit vs letter of the law definition of classic.

Isn't there a huge difference between spell research is broken and clarity and shrink didn't exist yet? Clarity and shrink weren't supposed to exist, but mage research was supposed to be working.

Unless the original intent was for mages to max out at level 34 pet, which I don't believe is the case?
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Old 11-19-2019, 07:44 PM
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This is actually my fault, more than Nilbog's really, since I forgot that mage pet research requires the previous circle's spells and that some mage research recipes don't exist.

I wouldn't have recommended the vendor changes, accurate though they are, if I knew they'd break the class spell progression.

Although it is classic...
This is why so many people disagreed with your input. Stating vague allakhazam threads with literally 2 or 3 response posts as evidence is nonsense.

Go eat shit, guy.
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Old 11-20-2019, 02:11 AM
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This is why so many people disagreed with your input. Stating vague allakhazam threads with literally 2 or 3 response posts as evidence is nonsense.

Go eat shit, guy.
No it isn't, they just didn't want their class changed.

And right back atcha mate.
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