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Old 02-19-2020, 04:39 PM
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A higher level charecter steals way more xp from the group than an average level hybrid. Plus, I'm pretty sure the calc for group distro is level based and then the hybrids take their xp cut after the group is given their xp. so yes, if you have even a rogue 4 levels higher than everyone else in group they will steal more xp from the group than a hybrid of equal level.



penalty doesnt matter as much as you think, see above.
snare,levi,invis,root,harmony, and the many other lower level but still useful spells that can stack in some groups.

low damage? subjective, ranger with cof would do more damage than most others that have lesser haste/gear. the idea that if its not meta its not worth it permeates this server.

Ranger can tank very well in classic up to 40-45 with minimal gear and do fine. higher tier mobs are reserved for tanks' duh.

There are no bad classes, only bad players and meta fags

Haven’t ever cared about meta, only my time. I mained a Ranger back in the live EQ days, so I don’t think they’re a bad class at all, but in Classic they are very underwhelming given their penalty and middle of the road DPS. Of course if they have a CoF and all BiS they’d be doing better than 50% of DPS on the server, but I’m assuming equal geared/equal level characters.

Same reason I’m skittish about the penalty is also why I wouldn’t take someone 4 levels higher than the group generally. If I’m group leader, I’m not going to make a choice that hurts the group in a benefit/burden sense. It’s unfair of me to put that on the group.

Their exp penalty is assessed on the group before experience is divvied out to everyone, not after. Wiki explains it much better than I can. It’s definitely noticeable though, especially with multiple hybrids in a group. If people are so butthurt about groups not taking the exp penalty, then they can either play a different class, solo, or only play with friends/guild mates and not a bunch of rando’s. Not saying I wouldn’t not ever take a hybrid, but given the choice between a DPS with a penalty and one without, I’ll take the one without.
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Old 02-20-2020, 01:08 AM
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A higher level charecter steals way more xp from the group than an average level hybrid. Plus, I'm pretty sure the calc for group distro is level based and then the hybrids take their xp cut after the group is given their xp. so yes, if you have even a rogue 4 levels higher than everyone else in group they will steal more xp from the group than a hybrid of equal level.



penalty doesnt matter as much as you think, see above.
snare,levi,invis,root,harmony, and the many other lower level but still useful spells that can stack in some groups.

low damage? subjective, ranger with cof would do more damage than most others that have lesser haste/gear. the idea that if its not meta its not worth it permeates this server.

Ranger can tank very well in classic up to 40-45 with minimal gear and do fine. higher tier mobs are reserved for tanks' duh.

There are no bad classes, only bad players and meta fags
A high level rogue only has one way to fuck your xp. A high level hybrid has two. People keep comparing these variables like they’re of equal weight but they’re not. If equal levels, then a hybrid is still going to screw your group over more than a rogue would.
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Old 03-10-2020, 04:27 PM
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If only this server had endurance in the game....Hybrids would be alot different when your warrior swinging his 15 weight swords would say please hold pulls I can't do anything. Priests would be wasting mana on the melee instead of healing. Bards would be essential in heavy melee groups, enchanters would have to Augmentation everyone all the time. I'd love to see people not be able to swim anymore and drowned because of no stamina. It's great there is a line of spells in this game that do nothing that were backbone in classic and added worth to the most hated classes. Worthless kunark clickies that would be standard equipment to melee. But let's keep that exp pen because it's classic.
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Old 02-17-2020, 01:41 AM
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Bards are fairly useless in classic IMO
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Old 02-18-2020, 04:13 AM
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Probably one of the pet classes as they seem inclined to solo, which is antithetical to the core concept of player interaction in mmos and rpgs.
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Old 02-18-2020, 08:36 AM
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Old 02-18-2020, 12:31 PM
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Exp struggles are temporary...sucking is forever.
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Old 02-18-2020, 12:32 PM
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Paladin and it only goes down hill from here.

Worst DPS, once kunark hits #3 for tank agro.
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Old 07-22-2020, 11:11 PM
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Paladin and it only goes down hill from here.

Worst DPS, once kunark hits #3 for tank agro.
u are deluded and clueless in regard agro , pala was the premier number 1 agro tank in the game untill stun agro nerf and warriors gettin incite .

towards end of velious palas got buffed in dmg and def to the point they could tank aswell like any warrior wich only had defensive to keep his edge and marginnaly 460 hps more than the pal sk being both class in bis gear .

in classic a full russet pala can tank anything better than any warrior and have roughly same dps , warrior only began to pull ahead on dmg on kunark
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Old 02-18-2020, 01:10 PM
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I'd wager that each hybrid class that is scoffed at makes it into a group more times than not. I never group (by choice), and I play hybrids. I prefer to spend my time leveling than knowing a group of whiners are going to constantly run me down about an experience penalty I have no control over.
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