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[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Nathaniel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All this AM 2.0, 3.0, 4.0 and apparently Freedom is AM 5.0(?) coming from Riot members in various threads. I'm willing to bet that Riot has more ex-AM members than Freedom atm.

Dont forget the IB->Rampage->Awakened->Tempest->Core->Riot lineage. IB 5.0 confirmed.

[Akg49]

Everyone, calm your titties!

[Fammaden]

Let me guess, you're in Kittens.

[xdrcfrx]

which has what to do with the point here, that

I know plenty of folks in AG, in Riot, and in Freedom even, that are perfectly fine people (some even are very cool(tm), and/or I consider friends, such as it is). I'm also not complaining about increased competition, or what have you. The week that AG and Riot were banned from ToV and we raced <Ghxst> or whatever they were at the time, was super fun even though we lost all those races. We got good experience out of it - I even enjoyed the two Vulak's we teamed up for (at least we got some of that loot; grats TSS/DB/Lighthouse on pop rolls lol). Getting the second one, just as Riot was zoning in? Delicious.

But you all act like giant incorrigible dicks and then blame everyone else for the culture that creates, and have been doing it for a very long time. Case in point: this very thread, the 3rd posted by the same member in the span of about a week, gloating that you made a couple dozen people waste a bunch of time. Congrats, I guess?

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by xdrcfrx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

which has what to do with the point here, that

I know plenty of folks in AG, in Riot, and in Freedom even, that are perfectly fine people (some even are very cool(tm), and/or I consider friends, such as it is). I'm also not complaining about increased competition, or what have you. The week that AG and Riot were banned from ToV and we raced <Ghxst> or whatever they were at the time, was super fun even though we lost all those races. We got good experience out of it - I even enjoyed the two Vulak's we teamed up for (at least we got some of that loot; grats TSS/DB/Lighthouse on pop rolls lol). Getting the second one, just as Riot was zoning in? Delicious.

But you all act like giant incorrigible dicks and then blame everyone else for the culture that creates, and have been doing it for a very long time. Case in point: this very thread, the 3rd posted by the same member in the span of about a week, gloating that you made a couple dozen people waste a bunch of time. Congrats, I guess?

So your complaint boils down to a handful of Freedomers like to talk shit and troll on RnF, a forum which no one is forcing you to read?

Because I'd agree, Riot's reign has been exactly like AM's with the exception that they don't come talk mad shit on this board every week like that. In game its been effectively the exact same situation, maybe felt a bit worse for a while in some ways due to the initial surge of interest in green late last year. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

But you initially made some vague claims that Freedom has made the raid scene in game more toxic, which I don't really see. Its the same shit its always been, with a new balance of power and divisions in the playerbase.

[xdrcfrx]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So your complaint boils down to a handful of Freedomers like to talk shit and troll on RnF, a forum which no one is forcing you to read?

Because I'd agree, Riot's reign has been exactly like AM's with the exception that they don't come talk mad shit on this board every week like that. In game its been effectively the exact same situation, maybe felt a bit worse for a while in some ways due to the initial surge of interest in green late last year. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

But you initially made some vague claims that Freedom has made the raid scene in game more toxic, which I don't really see. Its the same shit its always been, with a new balance of power and divisions in the playerbase.

I'm not making vague claims that Freedom has maid the raid scene more toxic, I am saying it outright, and have provided examples. The shitposting on RnF is certainly more entertaining with you all back, but that's about the only thing that is.

[Psyborg]

Originally Posted by xdrcfrx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not making vague claims that Freedom has maid the raid scene more toxic, I am saying it outright, and have provided examples. The shitposting on RnF is certainly more entertaining with you all back, but that's about the only thing that is.

You gave an example where Freedom leapfrogged you on a Vindi. I've offered to work with you to make that right.

You also complained that Riot is no longer giving you free cracks at Eashen and Ikatiar. Seems more fair to hold that against them than Freedom.

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by xdrcfrx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not making vague claims that Freedom has maid the raid scene more toxic, I am saying it outright, and have provided examples. The shitposting on RnF is certainly more entertaining with you all back, but that's about the only thing that is.

You have made exactly two specific claims repeatedly. That Ghxst shit all over a Vindi outside of the usual Sunday agreement. Note that this is Ghxst not Freedom and was under very different and apparently less focused and more disorganized leadership.

Secondly that at some point Kittens and other guilds were gifted attempts on a couple NToV mobs, but that appears to have been as much due to the population crash on blue than who was the top raid guild at the time.

I guess you're also adding in rotations now but why the rotations got nuked varies by who you ask. Again, Ghxst were being shitbags with RW and ST and that sucks that it led to the situation that we have now. But Ghxst isn't Freedom they are very different entities which should be clear by now, despite the membership they share. Regardless of the initial catalyst for ditching rotations, it is fully Riot that's currently refusing to consider rotating again as I understand it (not a UN rep or anything).

[reznor_]

inb4 another "led by wolves" post

[Hideousclaw]

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

inb4 another "led by wolves" post

Cease and Desist order #2 this week:
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