SK and paladin, which one do you honestly think is better

[Crede]

I think paladins are the better class on paper. However having fd, hide, and instant invis is just so nice especially for people who like to afk on demand. And Ogre sks are like the ultimate fd splitters.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by greatdane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stun on a 6.0 cast time is borderline worthless tbh.

It's pretty good for holding aggro when manadrained / when there's no mana regen, just has to be spammed early and/or used in tandem with flash of light, similar to BE gauntlets and disease cloud. And if two players click theirs in succession, continuous stunlock. As mentioned, no recast time. BE greaves are great for that reason too, at least before Death Peace, but even then they still have value for dragging corpses and dropping trains. Again, knights are dependent on mana regen / vulnerable to manadrain so anything that still allows them to function as casters goes a long way.

[Gustoo]

It depends what you wanna do.

For most of the time being an ogre is a lot better than being any of the paladin races.

At max gear any hybrid is a hoot. Ranger, paladin, sk all are quite awesome

I like how for 2021 everyone is coming around to hybrids it’s gunna be like 1999 again when everyone was a ranger or pally. Love it

[Naethyn]

Most of the best shadowknights are playing other classes while equipping their knights. Paladins have an endgame buff divine strength. Both are bad.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most of the best shadowknights are playing other classes while equipping their knights. Paladins have an endgame buff divine strength. Both are bad.

Situationally good, otherwise those players probably wouldn't be raid gearing their knights? Seems like a waste of DKP otherwise.

[Gustoo]

They want to equip them because they are cool and fun.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Situationally good, otherwise those players probably wouldn't be raid gearing their knights? Seems like a waste of DKP otherwise.

Yes, Knights are generally the best tanks in solo/duo/group situations, unless a Warrior or Monk is extremely well geared. Gearing up a Knight is a LOT cheaper DKP wise than gearing up a Warrior or Monk, so it is the easier path to gear up a Knight if you want a great solo/duo/group tank.

[mattydef]

SK for fun factor and soloing, paladin for literally everything else. I can take my paladin to KC or seb and be MT and the only healer at the same time.

[kjs86z]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Situationally good, otherwise those players probably wouldn't be raid gearing their knights? Seems like a waste of DKP otherwise.

Thinking of it the wrong way.

They're playing useful chars in raids to eventually spend their DKP to gear their knights so they can go enjoy the game outside the raid scene.

Hitting CH on an uber geared cleric doesn't feel any cooler than on a crap geared cleric bot. Doing solo / single group stuff with a full BiS hybrid is a heck of a lot more fun than a crappy geared hybrid.

I watched Sudz completely destroy sebilis by himself right after he got his Vulak axe. He was definitely having a good time.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by kjs86z [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thinking of it the wrong way.

They're playing useful chars in raids to eventually spend their DKP to gear their knights so they can go enjoy the game outside the raid scene.

Hitting CH on an uber geared cleric doesn't feel any cooler than on a crap geared cleric bot. Doing solo / single group stuff with a full BiS hybrid is a heck of a lot more fun than a crappy geared hybrid.

I watched Sudz completely destroy sebilis by himself right after he got his Vulak axe. He was definitely having a good time.

Exactly right. A heavily geared hybrid can do very well in those situations compared to a Warrior or Monk with non raid gear and gear you can buy (excluding people who can drop a million plat or more). Unfortunately gearing up a Warrior or Monk is EXTREMELY competitive in guilds, so you need to spend a LOT more time raiding if that is your goal. You could mostly get BiS gear on a hybrid in a fraction of the time and DKP it takes to do on a Warrior or Monk. This obviously excludes overlapping interests like Vulak Axe. But there are plenty of great, fairly cheap raid weapons a Paladin or Shadowknight can get that aren't interesting or useable by Monks and Warriors, and they would be within the top 15 best DPS weapons you could get.