Rant: Why create bad game design on purpose?

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

3) whether any assumed bad game design is intentional

We all know the answer to this because we all sat around and listend to Brad and Smed be like man this is our world!!! The Vision

Definitely intentional.

It's not bad game design tho. To say it's bad is disingenuous. Is it profitable? No.

[starkind]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We all know the answer to this because we all sat around and listend to Brad and Smed be like man this is our world!!! The Vision

Definitely intentional.

It's not bad game design tho. To say it's bad is disingenuous. Is it profitable? No.

Or just not that profitable. I mean EQ1 generated plenty of profit lol.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or just not that profitable. I mean EQ1 generated plenty of profit lol.

It’s still going too, so thats a check in the job security box!

[Gustoo]

I agree, the "legacy item" implementation on p99 servers is pretty dumb.

It's dumb because on live, no one knew these items were going to be nerfed and removed from the game.

It's dumb because it makes the obtaining of these items the most valuable thing you can do when a new server launches.

It's dumb because it isn't classic. No live servers had manastones after the original ones were nerfed. No new live servers had guises after the original ones were nerfed. So on and so forth.

It is my greatest hope that future p99 servers do not have these items implemented in the non-classic and game ruining way they have been introduced on green.

[Elfminster]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree, the "legacy item" implementation on p99 servers is pretty dumb.

It's dumb because on live, no one knew these items were going to be nerfed and removed from the game.

It's dumb because it makes the obtaining of these items the most valuable thing you can do when a new server launches.

It's dumb because it isn't classic. No live servers had manastones after the original ones were nerfed. No new live servers had guises after the original ones were nerfed. So on and so forth.

It is my greatest hope that future p99 servers do not have these items implemented in the non-classic and game ruining way they have been introduced on green.

Careful, you might get spammed with therapy web site links and counselling advice.

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[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Elfminster [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Careful, you might get spammed with therapy web site links and counselling advice.

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You’re the one larping as a ptsd vet. Worth taking seriously just in case it isn't a larp.

For what it’s worth Gustoo is on the money:

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're a perfect example of why non-classic changes are necessary.

You come here to a classic server with the expectation of all past exploitable things being abusable, otherwise it's not legitimized in your mind. You fail to realize that it's not classic to begin with if these things people barely knew about started getting widespread usage, they no longer become classic. Many of these things were changed back then immediately upon developer realizations, for good reason.

To repeat something I said in Discord and to address one item in your list, NToV dragons were never solo pulled to the zone in in Classic with the consistency and precision that we started to see here. People raided NToV like a normal raid zone. A change was needed to return that to be the case. These mobs were rooted in Luclin because it was always intended by the developers that they be fought in or near their lairs.

We will continue to make changes as we feel necessary to restore a classic atmosphere and difficulty, including non-classic changes to meet those goals. To not do so otherwise would result in a server far detrimental to the health of the community as a whole.

I will not be commenting on this again.

[Elfminster]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I need to see peer reviewed citations on

1) is unfairness bad game design

2. is plucking your eyes out short-sighted
3. is stabbing yourself in the face moronic
4. is setting your hair on fire stupid
5. is hacking the server dumb
6. is cheating unfair
7. is playing video games without a monitor pointless
8. is burning your house down idiotic
9. is swimming with piranhas crazy
10. is driving your RV off a cliff insane
11. is drowning kittens mean
12. is eating dog shit sick
13. is jimjam acting the maggot

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[Elfminster]

14. is bad game design unfair

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[El Camacho]

Occupy Freeport!

Good luck comrade.

[Elfminster]

The only reason i don't have a giuse or a runed fighters staff is because when the server first went live I was busy on combat duty risking my life hunting violent anti-democratic terrorists who wanted to take away your freedom to eat nacho cheese doritos and play everquest in your underpants.

While we were out on patrol one day our patrol vehicle suffered a huge IED attack and when I woke up from the coma the doctor told me he had to amputate both my legs. I also learned my 4 brothers were KIA protecting your freedom while I was out cold.

When I finally got back home and logged onto the server I found out guises no longer dropped. I was so devastated I sobbed for weeks in my wheelchair. Now when I log onto green players with guises laugh at me and calll me stumpy loser because I don't have a guise or legs.

I'vr started drinking hard liquor to forget what happened out there but I'd do it again if give half the chance because it's my sworn duy to protect your freedom to drink coca-cola and loot guises.

Forgive for not standing.

Oh, say, can you see by the dawn’s early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight’s last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight
O’er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming.
And the rockets’ red glare, the bombs bursting in air
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
Oh, say, does that star spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave