Question for p99 vets

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trained to point fingers at each other.

My point, which doesn't seem to be connecting and that is ok, is that it seems folks posting about politics on this elf sim forum are basically giving themself dopamine hits of confirmation bias. They are expressing trained responses to trained inputs. The folks with different polarized politics respond in kind. A predictable crossfire begins. It's like a tennis match that doesn't stop but doesn't help anyone except the person who thinks they'll win the argument in that fleeting feeling of being 'right' when they hit the post button. This of course ends up looking like a trained input that will then generate the opposing sides trained input.

I don't understand why so many can't see through that.

It's informative the first few times you see the interaction if you can tease out the pattern, but overall I don't find it that informative after seeing play out again and again and again. Rather I find it as a means to figure out if a person is trapped in a particular ideology.

[Toxigen]

id willingly go in the ring vs botten and booter 1 v 2

[Homesteaded]

Ahh yes the sane and rational Libs portray their counterparts as evil.

Meanwhile they push mutilating children and replacing actual teaching with ideological indoctrination of homosexual lifestyles.

Saying we shouldn't fund, and consume valuable time in school with this is hatful and causes actual harm.

You guys remember when TED was cool? Captured, woke nonsense now. Way to go. Same thing that happens here. Intolerant left cries and silences opposition. Toll stations await.

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Homesteaded [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ahh yes the sane and rational Libs portray their counterparts as evil.

Meanwhile they push mutilating children and replacing actual teaching with ideological indoctrination of homosexual lifestyles.

Saying we shouldn't fund, and consume valuable time in school with this is hatful and causes actual harm.

You guys remember when TED was cool? Captured, woke nonsense now. Way to go. Same thing that happens here. Intolerant left cries and silences opposition. Toll stations await.

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Originally Posted by Seducio

You can't fix stupid.

[Origen]

Toxigen is pretty openly racist. So is Homesteaded.

There's a few covert ones too, Ben Shapiro fan, but I prefer them to think they're clever.

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a few covert ones too, Ben Shapiro fan, but I prefer them to think they're clever.

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[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Toxigen is pretty openly racist. So is Homesteaded.

There's a few covert ones too, Ben Shapiro fan, but I prefer them to think they're clever.

Tell me how you can tell a "covert" racist from a regular one?

Ben Shapiro isn't a racist, neither is matt walsh. I know you think they are, and yet they aren't. How am I to reconcile these facts?

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tell me how you can tell a "covert" racist from a regular one

Funny how this thread devolved into politics like many do that don't start that way. This might be my last post of the thread as it has shifted to different topic.

To answer your question it really has to do with framework of understanding. A human typically adopts the following models for racism and then applies them to reality. This makes it so two different people with different frameworks talk past each other with purposeful triggering language. It's a version of 'Beautiful Trouble' to shift the Overton window by making everyone upset with each other while the elites change the rules.

Here are the frameworks most Americans view racism with from most popular to least popular:

1. Content of Character - MLK's Colorblind framework - is fashionable amongst conservatives and old school liberals. The idea is not that a human does not see race/color, but rather is taught not to judge others by immutable characteristics and rather to judge them by their character. It is individualistic.

2. Systemic Racism - Ie. CRT: Critical Race Theory - is fashionable amongst progressives, academics, and elites of the D party. The idea is that society is oppressive to black people and 'people of color' (a relatively new term) in general and so nearly everything in society is 'White Supremacy' which create this alleged oppression. Therefore even people who deny being racist are covertly acting racist. It's collectivist.

3. Segregationism - A old 'separate but equal' model that fell out of fashion in the 60s and yet is making a comeback due to a progressive embrace of 'black only' or 'poc only' spaces at universities. Meanwhile there has always been an extreme element of the conservative movement that still embraces segregation in remote parts of the country. Typically tied Xenophobia and Tribalism. It's localism.

4. I don't care/Racism doesn't matter - This model used to far more popular than it currently is. Essentially those in the Systemic Racism camp used the phrase 'Silence is Violence' during the George Floyd protest to get people emotionally whipped up and into the streets that typically don't care about politics. After they did that it became difficult to fall back into that camp again. Those that don't care about racism are still around and there are many of them. It's the privilege of living in modernity.

When anyone from any of these four models interacts with anyone from one of the other models sparks fly because the definition of racism will differ for all of them.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funny how this thread devolved into politics like many do that don't start that way. This might be my last post of the thread as it has shifted to different topic.

To answer your question it really has to do with framework of understanding. A human typically adopts the following models for racism and then applies them to reality. This makes it so two different people with different frameworks talk past each other with purposeful triggering language. It's a version of 'Beautiful Trouble' to shift the Overton window by making everyone upset with each other while the elites change the rules.

Here are the frameworks most Americans view racism with from most popular to least popular:

1. Content of Character - MLK's Colorblind framework - is fashionable amongst conservatives and old school liberals. The idea is not that a human does not see race/color, but rather is taught not to judge others by immutable characteristics and rather to judge them by their character. It is individualistic.

2. Systemic Racism - Ie. CRT: Critical Race Theory - is fashionable amongst progressives, academics, and elites of the D party. The idea is that society is oppressive to black people and 'people of color' (a relatively new term) in general and so nearly everything in society is 'White Supremacy' which create this alleged oppression. Therefore even people who deny being racist are covertly acting racist. It's collectivist.

3. Segregationism - A old 'separate but equal' model that fell out of fashion in the 60s and yet is making a comeback due to a progressive embrace of 'black only' or 'poc only' spaces at universities. Meanwhile there has always been an extreme element of the conservative movement that still embraces segregation in remote parts of the country. Typically tied Xenophobia and Tribalism. It's localism.

4. I don't care/Racism doesn't matter - This model used to far more popular than it currently is. Essentially those in the Systemic Racism camp used the phrase 'Silence is Violence' during the George Floyd protest to get people emotionally whipped up and into the streets that typically don't care about politics. After they did that it became difficult to fall back into that camp again. Those that don't care about racism are still around and there are many of them. It's the privilege of living in modernity.

When anyone from any of these four models interacts with anyone from one of the other models sparks fly because the definition of racism will differ for all of them.

What am I. I want a new culture not based on race, butt individual excellence, where you die if you're a monster or idiot who is blatantly animalistic, deceitful, needlessly aggressive, selfish and undisciplined.

[Seducio]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What am I.

Whatever you want to be.