shaman duo

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well guys … we made it more than halfway through page 3 this time …

/facepalm

Crede … you sir are a black belt in rustling his jimmies lol

I am simply correcting false claims that are being posted, so OP can get real information. Crede is not correct about Shaman DPS, and he hasn't provided any evidence to back up his claims. You also haven't provided any evidence.

The only one with rustled jimmies is yourself. It is why you keep posting off topic nonsense, while trying to pretend you aren't the one derailing the thread. When will you take your own advise and get back to the topic at hand? Why are you compulsively posting nonsense instead?

[Duik]

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Parse data > ALL.

[Gloomlord]

You know, DSM: you may actually have a point sometimes, but the sheer audacity of some of your arguments (Root rotting in a group that doesn't need it and putting starting points into INT as SK) is doing you a serious disservice.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know, DSM: you may actually have a point sometimes, but the sheer audacity of some of your arguments (Root rotting in a group that doesn't need it and putting starting points into INT as SK) is doing you a serious disservice.

If you think I am wrong, the solution is to present counter-evidence and logic. You have 350+ posts of literally nothing other than insults. It's over half of your entire post history. That is the only disservice here, you have completely discredited yourself and wasted peoples time with your posts.

I am sorry you lack the imagination to understand a simple concept like rooting and doting a mob. You do understand that players already root adds off to the side in a group, right? Applying a DoT is easy enough to do in that circumstance. A Shaman/SK duo is not going to worry about breaking Enchanter Mez with DoTs.

Basic statistics show INT is the best stat to dump into if you want to Min/Max an SK. P99 will never leave Velious, so there will be no new items that change the statistical distribution of equipment stats. There's really no reason for this to be a contentious issue, all the data is available.

Please stop trolling and posting off-topic nonsense. If you want to contribute to the thread, please stick to the topic at hand.

[Gloomlord]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you think I am wrong, the solution is to present counter-evidence and logic. You have 350+ posts of literally nothing other than insults. It's over half of your entire post history. That is the only disservice here, you have completely discredited yourself and wasted peoples time with your posts.

I mean, if you're going to try to go into another rant at me, at least try to stop saying lies like "wasted people's time". I was arguing with you in those threads, DSM. You wanted to respond to me, so get off your high horse.

Please, for the love of God, just grow up for once in your life.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean, if you're going to try to go into another rant at me, at least try to stop saying lies like "wasted people's time". I was arguing with you in those threads, DSM. You wanted to respond to me, so get off your high horse.

Please, for the love of God, just grow up for once in your life.

You spent 350+ posts ranting and raving. It was a waste of time. Danth posted a screenshot of people root rotting in a duo over 10 years ago. Looks like your assumption that nobody does this was wrong. Are you willing to grow up and admit you were wrong?

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haven't posted in months--I'm inactive on P99 for now--but this thread is relevant to me so l'll chime in. I played a shadowknight on P99, paired with my wife's shaman, for many years, and we certainly pushed the limit of our duo as far as we cared to, and farther than most.

Monk/Shaman levels faster than SK/Shaman. This should not be in dispute. The average hourl exp rate difference is not as large as might be expected, however, so a human or dark elf SK paired with a barbarian shaman should be competive with say, Iksar monk/shaman.

At level 60 once levels don't matter overmuch they're pretty much interchangeable. They'll do all the same camps. The SK is favored in some areas, the Monk-based duo has an advantage in others, but in over ten years I never found an area the monk-based duo could do, that my wife and I couldn't. The SK has an easier time keeping aggro when the shaman has to spam slow back-to-back against resistant creatures like guardian wurms, Bledrek/Kerdelb, and such things, and also has an easier time splitting where snare splits are desired. Monk-based duo's get it done too, so it's not an insurmountable problem. The Monk offers a faster killspeed, especially if the SK doesn't use his pet (say, WW dragons), and doesn't need to meditate but again, we kill the same ones too, if just a little slower.

Attached is an image from over a decade ago of my wife root-rotting multiple mobs in a leveling duo with my SK, just to show some people actually do that sort of thing.

Thanks for the post btw Danth. Level headed and informative as always!

[Troxx]

All aboard!

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See you guys in 20 pages … we got ourselves another DSM thread!!

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[Toxigen]

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well played

[Danth]

Haven't posted in months--I'm inactive on P99 for now--but this thread is relevant to me so l'll chime in. I played a shadowknight on P99, paired with my wife's shaman, for many years, and we certainly pushed the limit of our duo as far as we cared to, and farther than most.

Monk/Shaman levels faster than SK/Shaman. This should not be in dispute. The average hourl exp rate difference is not as large as might be expected, however, so a human or dark elf SK paired with a barbarian shaman should be competive with say, Iksar monk/shaman.

At level 60 once levels don't matter overmuch they're pretty much interchangeable. They'll do all the same camps. The SK is favored in some areas, the Monk-based duo has an advantage in others, but in over ten years I never found an area the monk-based duo could do, that my wife and I couldn't. The SK has an easier time keeping aggro when the shaman has to spam slow back-to-back against resistant creatures like guardian wurms, Bledrek/Kerdelb, and such things, and also has an easier time splitting where snare splits are desired. Monk-based duo's get it done too, so it's not an insurmountable problem. The Monk offers a faster killspeed, especially if the SK doesn't use his pet (say, WW dragons), and doesn't need to meditate but again, we kill the same ones too, if just a little slower.

Attached is an image from over a decade ago of my wife root-rotting multiple mobs in a leveling duo with my SK, just to show some people actually do that sort of thing.